Tale of Three Filters (w/pictures)

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Here is my first attempt to assess filter/engine size and OCI for my vehicles. I would be happy to receive comments or similair
assessments.

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Mahle OC-54, 3.2L Porsche 1985 911 @ 180K miles, (3.75”d x 5.0”l), OCI 3-4K
Fram PH3980, 5.7L Chevy 1997 Tahoe @ 137K miles, (3.0”d x 4.5”l), OCI 3K*
Motorcraft FL820S, 3.0L Ford 2005 Duratec @ 30K miles, (3.75”d x 3.5”l) OCI 5K
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db00b3127ccec47f4783c8cd00000076108AcOGzhu4aNQe3nwQ[/img]

1, 2, 3 …left to right.

1) OC-54 …. It looks under utilized. It’s the largest filter and on a smaller 3.2L engine.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db00b3127ccec47e720029b000000076108AcOGzhu4aNQe3nwQ[/img]

2) PH3980 ….Despite being 3K OCI, it looks spent. I believe the primary reasons are the 5.7L engine size, smallest filter size, and three runs of 6K OCI prior* (otherwise 3K OCI’s were used for all engine’s life).
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db00b3127ccec47f589b097200000076108AcOGzhu4aNQe3nwQ[/img]

3) FL820S…being 2005, the engine probably runs clean and at 5K filter still looks healthy.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8db00b3127ccec47fe34a496600000076108AcOGzhu4aNQe3nwQ

Analysis:

Media surface would be a better metric but volume is easier to calculate.

Filter Can Volume Engine size Can Vol/Engine Ratios
PH3980 32.0cubic” 5.7L 5.6 cub”/L = 1.0 (base)
FL820S 38.6 3.0 12.9 = 2.3
OC-54 55.2 3.2 17.3 = 3.1

The PH3980/5.7L combo looks like it could do 4.5K conservatively on a consistent basis. The owners manual says 6K OCI normal, 3K sever.

The FL820S application manual says 5K normal, 3K sever. Two model years later Ford recommended 7.5K normal OCI for this engine. With ratio x2.3 relative to the PH3980 application, it would be reasonable to expect it to run out to 10K miles (4.5K x 2.3) with similar performance. Overall, Fords recommendations looks much more conservative than GM’s in these cases especially considering a newer/small engine is likely to even run cleaner.

The OC-54 application manual say 15K miles for oil & filter changes. Although this seems high, this is about what is predicted by the above ratio relative to the PH3980 (4.5K x 3.1 = 14K).

Conclusions:

Visual inspection of used media appears to provide useful information to determine life expectancy for oil filters.

The PH3980 app should be held to a 3-5K OCI. The FL820S could go well beyond the current 5K warranty OCI, easily to 7.5K and maybe to 10K. The OC-54 could easily go to my new target OCI of 12K/annual. Of course these findings should be verified with a second inspection at target OCI’s.
 
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Originally Posted By: glenncof

The PH3980 app should be held to a 3-5K OCI.

should be held to "0",,FRAM's suck,,much better filters out there
for the $$
 
Originally Posted By: bustednutz
Mahle is a top notch filter. I just wish they were more readily available here.


I notice my local NAPA has Mahle symbol in the window of what they can get. Maybe try a NAPA in your location; or an online google search.
 
Why not use the AC Delco PF-52 for that 5.7? IMO it's a better filter, and the last 6 I've purchased had a silicon ADBV and cost less than or the same as a Fram (can't remember how much the Fram was)
 
PF52
Thread Size: 18X1.5 MM

but the 57060 is the same thread as the Fl820s

Part Number: 57060
UPC Number: 765809570603
Principal Application: Various GM, Saturn, Saab (07-08)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.430
Outer Diameter Top: 2.970
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 22X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 15
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/75=10/25
Max Flow Rate: 10-12 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.750 2.410 0.270

Part Number: 51372
UPC Number: 765809513723
Principal Application: Ford/Lincoln/Mercury (91-08), Mazda (00-08), Cadillac STS-V, XLR-V (06-08)
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 4.167
Outer Diameter Top: 3.660
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 22X1.5 MM
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 16
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Beta Ratio: 2/20=12/25
Burst Pressure-PSI: 275
Max Flow Rate: 11-13 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 19

Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.834 2.462 0.200

The FL820S is the same as the PF1250

The 57060 is allegedly the PF48
 
Originally Posted By: steve20
I'd continue to be a rebel-use the Fram


Be smart and use anything but a Fram. That Fram looks like A$$.
 
All I can say about that Fram is wow! I don't know what else to say that hasn't been said about Fram. Worse than I imagined it would be and I didn't have high expectations.
 
Here is follow-up on the OC-54 application.

I ran the Purolator version, L30260 (got at PB for $0.01) for 8900 miles.

Based on my visual inspection it still looks better than the small FRAM at 3K in the large 5.7l application. I feel comfortable taking th2 OC-54 filter to 12K now (Porsche spec's it to 15K OCI).

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