Wear oh wear art though from

Status
Not open for further replies.

JAG

Joined
Oct 23, 2005
Messages
5,316
Location
Fredericksburg, VA
Drain Plug Magnet Analysis using 60X microscope.

Engine is VW 1.8T with 87K miles on it. Oil was approximately 80% Mobil 1 0W-40 mixed with approx. 20% Mobil 1 5W-40 TDT. OCI of 3900 miles.

Most of what's seen under the microscope is way too small to show up as distinct particles. It just looks black with both naked eye and under 60X microscope. Most of the occasionally seen shiny ferrous wear particles are about 8 microns in size...barely if at all detectable with standard UOA wear metal analysis. One particle I saw was about 28 microns in size which would not be detected by UOA.

I have wondered for the last few years I've been doing this what the black debris is made of and what size the particles are. They are certainly small enough to be accurately picked up by UOA, if they are made of element(s) that are being measured. I can't rule out it being soot that somehow gets stuck to the magnet; could be agglomeration due to static charge attraction, or due to pure magnetic attraction. Perhaps I will take the magnet whiping to the super microscope that's in another building at my work. That may shed some light on the black stuff.

I did not change the oil filter so this time I did not get to analyze the magnet debris from the magnet that goes inside the oil filter or the Filter Mag that goes on the outside of the filter. They catch a lot more debris than the drain plug magnet.

Magnet analysis is fun, inexpensive (assuming you have a microscope), and interesting. I recommend it to others.
 
DSC02429.jpg
 
Thanks for the comments, people. I have not had a chance to use the super microscope. oilyriser, I like that idea but there are two problems: finding a suitable cover (likely a solvable problem) and finding a scale with enough precision to detect a difference between the cover and the particles on it (likely unsolvable with a low budget). But I would love to be able to get that data.
 
Jag an analytical scale like the one you probably used in college chemistry or physiology would do the trick.
 
John, I have a digital scale that measures in 0.005 gram increments (5 mg). After I read your post, I cut a piece of my hair to about 1/2 inch long and tried to weigh it. The hair didn't register on the scale. I'm guessing that the wear particles I collect weigh less than that hair. If so, that rules out using my scale.

These scales that may work for this purpose read to 0.1 mg, 50 times "finer" than mine. http://www.balances.com/adam/analytical-balance.html
Cost over $1000! Ouch. I'll pass on attempting to weigh these particles. I'll settle for looking at them under a microscope for now. Anyone who tries to weigh them would be my hero!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top