Form-A-Funnel
Recent Topics
Pennzoil YB $1.79/Quart after MIR (Limit 5)
by akk944
09/02/10 10:30 AM
Oil recommendations please.
by matt_in_tulsa
09/02/10 09:50 AM
Multiple quotes
by ChiTDI
09/02/10 09:30 AM
What's the preferred flavor of weed-trimmer??
by deeter16317
09/02/10 09:16 AM
September Advance Auto Ad
by tenderloin
09/02/10 08:34 AM
Brake system bleed now fluid is really dirty
by plrprecision
09/02/10 07:55 AM
which equation does widman calculator use?
by lipadj46
09/02/10 07:55 AM
Redline MT-85.
by simple_gifts
09/02/10 06:10 AM
Newest Members
jimo, porvdub, OADGTi, vicious_fishes, MASSMINI
32957 Registered Users
Who's Online
110 registered (addyguy, bdcardinal, AWDfreak, AlaskaMike, 97tbird, 12 invisible), 424 Guests and 48 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
32957 Members
60 Forums
136839 Topics
1998747 Posts

Max Online: 941 @ 06/02/10 01:33 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#1115819 - 03/27/08 05:17 PM Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX
InvalidUserID Offline


Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 205
Loc: Bay Area, CA
First UOA on my new 1999 Civic EX. I did this as a pre-ARX to compare later on with the post-ARX numbers to see any differences. Car is used 70% highway, 30% city. Universal averages have the asterisk next to it.

----

NATHAN: Everything looks good in the first sample from your '99 Civic. Universal averages for the 1.8L are based on an oil run of 4300 miles. Your wear generally read around averages and all metals were in the correct balance. That's a good sign that your engine has no problems to speak of, and you could run the oil more miles if you wanted to. No harmful contaminants were found and your air and oil filters (silicon and insolubles) are working well. Try 6500 miles next time. This engine is showing no signs of slowing down!

5,645 miles on oil
118, 245 miles on engine
1 qt. make-up oil added (Pennzoil 5W-30 yellow bottle)
Purolator premium oil filter (for you filter buffs out there)

Aluminum: 2 - 4*
Chromium: 0 - 1*
Iron: 8 - 9*
Copper: 2 - 6*
Lead: 2 - 3*
Tin: 0 - 0*
Moly: 182 - 81*
Nickel: 1 - 0*
Manganese: 0 - 1*
Silver: 0 - 0*
Titanium: 0 - 0*
Potassium: 0 - 1*
Boron: 23 - 57*
Silicon: 3 - 10*
Calcium: 2005 - 2209*
Magnesium: 8 - 164*
Phosphorus: 674 - 730*
Zinc: 853 - 859*
Barium: 0 - 0*

SUS Viscosity @ 210: 57.4 - 56 to 62*
cSt Vicsosity @ 100: 9.46 - 9.1 to 11.1*
Flashpoint: 410 - >365*
Fuel%: <0.5 - <2.0*
Antifreeze%: 0 - 0*
Water%: 0 - 0*
Insolubles%: 0.2 - <0.7*

So how did this first reading go? Right now I'm about halfway through my first cleaning cycle and am eager to see what changes (if any) there will after my first ARX cycle.



Edited by InvalidUserID (03/27/08 05:20 PM)
Edit Reason: added oil filter type

Top
#1115823 - 03/27/08 05:21 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: InvalidUserID]
badtlc Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Posts: 1906
Loc: KC
Pretty stellar report from my untrained eyes. Looks like the yellow bottle holds its viscosity better than M1 does.

Top
#1115824 - 03/27/08 05:26 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: badtlc]
ThirdeYe Offline


Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 6389
Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
Looks VERY good. Your Honda looks like it'll last a long time, no surprise. \:\!


Edited by ThirdeYe (03/27/08 05:27 PM)
_________________________
1995 Acura Integra LS - 174,3xx - Valvoline SynPower 5W-30/Purolator PureONE PL14459
161 quarts and counting!

Top
#1115830 - 03/27/08 05:36 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: ThirdeYe]
rationull Offline


Registered: 04/28/07
Posts: 1611
Loc: California, USA
1.8 liter? I thought the 6th gen EX had a D16 engine. Is that just a typo?

Top
#1115835 - 03/27/08 05:41 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: rationull]
Gary Allan Offline


Registered: 09/28/02
Posts: 39170
Loc: Pottstown, PA
I don't think you'll see much change at this level of UOA in the post Auto-Rx treatment. I think you would see something if oxidation/nitration/etc ..stuff that Dyson includes in his UOA.

This is a great UOA. I can't see much improving here in indications. If you could see combustion efficiency and byproduct/effects, then you could probably see it.
_________________________
http://lube-direct.com/gallan/

Top
#1115849 - 03/27/08 05:56 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: Gary Allan]
LT4 Vette Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 7350
Loc: Jupiter, FL
Civics run great on any dino oil.

Top
#1115855 - 03/27/08 06:03 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: rationull]
ThirdeYe Offline


Registered: 02/23/07
Posts: 6389
Loc: Grand Rapids, MI
 Originally Posted By: rationull
1.8 liter? I thought the 6th gen EX had a D16 engine. Is that just a typo?


Maybe he swapped in a B18?
_________________________
1995 Acura Integra LS - 174,3xx - Valvoline SynPower 5W-30/Purolator PureONE PL14459
161 quarts and counting!

Top
#1115917 - 03/27/08 06:54 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: ThirdeYe]
Brett Miller Offline


Registered: 09/09/03
Posts: 2530
Loc: Hazzard County
Another impressive showing for the Yellow Bottle.
_________________________
2001 Jeep GC, 2008 Toyota Sienna LE, 2003 Civic EX 5 speed.

Top
#1115926 - 03/27/08 07:02 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: Brett Miller]
Johnny Online   content


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 12079
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
Before you take another sample, complete the ARX cleaning phase and do the rinse cycle, then at the end of the third oil change do another UOA.

Darn, sounds like a washing machine commercial.
_________________________
2005 Honda Element | 100K | PU 5W-20 | Pennzoil MV ATF
2006 Honda Element | 40K | RLI 0W-20 | RLI ATF | Testing
Retired | Shell | Pennzoil

Top
#1115960 - 03/27/08 07:32 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: Johnny]
InvalidUserID Offline


Registered: 08/23/04
Posts: 205
Loc: Bay Area, CA
Yes, that is the plan. I've done three full ARX cleanings on different cars but this is the first that I'll be able to do a before and after. I plan on putting on the same mileage on the post-ARX change.

And yes...typo. Car is still bone stock with the D16Y8 engine.

Top
#1116270 - 03/28/08 07:37 AM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: InvalidUserID]
Bambam Offline


Registered: 12/16/03
Posts: 467
Loc: CT
Not bashing,just asking but with a full 1 qt of make-up oil used would that not replenish some needed additives and sway the results some??? I assume 4 qt capacity.
_________________________
07 DMAX CC 4x4


Top
#1116359 - 03/28/08 09:03 AM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: Bambam]
02zx9r Offline


Registered: 07/05/07
Posts: 3142
Loc: Newport, RI
i believe it would have some effect on it yes
_________________________
2008 Toyota Corolla LE 5-spd-Totaled in accident!
2003 Honda Civic LX 5-spd-74K miles
2002 Kawasaki Ninja ZX9R




Top
#1116620 - 03/28/08 02:18 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: 02zx9r]
Bambam Offline


Registered: 12/16/03
Posts: 467
Loc: CT
 Originally Posted By: 02zx9r
i believe it would have some effect on it yes



I'm sure it's hard to quantify but can a seal of approval be given to this oil and uoa with a quarter of the original fill being replaced??
_________________________
07 DMAX CC 4x4


Top
#1116866 - 03/28/08 08:04 PM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: Bambam]
LT4 Vette Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 7350
Loc: Jupiter, FL
This car has a 3.5 quart capacity

Top
#1117221 - 03/29/08 09:08 AM Re: Pennzoil 5W-30, 5,645 miles, 1999 Civic EX [Re: LT4 Vette]
Bambam Offline


Registered: 12/16/03
Posts: 467
Loc: CT
 Originally Posted By: LT4 Vette
This car has a 3.5 quart capacity


So my question still stands seeing that more than 1/4 was replaced..
_________________________
07 DMAX CC 4x4


Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >