Recent Topics
What would you do in my situation?
by 55Test
12 minutes 31 seconds ago
fuel additives AS fuel?
by 55Test
17 minutes 3 seconds ago
Best Crimping Die for SA .223?
by 2015_PSD
26 minutes 3 seconds ago
Castrol Edge EP Viscosity Index
by Gene K
42 minutes 2 seconds ago
Iceland beats England
by hatt
Today at 03:51 PM
1991 Clean Acura NSX with some mods for $45k
by HTSS_TR
Today at 03:16 PM
Tiny metal particles suspended in oil?
by rustypigeon
Today at 02:35 PM
M1 0w20, 10,093 miles, 2006 Civic
by Patman
Today at 02:13 PM
5w-40 synthetic vs 15w-40 synthetic
by mbacfp
Today at 01:27 PM
SCAM!Anyone renting their water heater tank?
by KrisZ
Today at 01:16 PM
Donaldson PowerCore as HEPA filter?
by PeterPolyol
Today at 01:13 PM
Clearance oversized filters for M20x1.5 w/bypass
by PeterPolyol
Today at 01:05 PM
Newest Members
alostaunau, alanwayne1908, scuff, Tuar, ATFD48
58292 Registered Users
Who's Online
77 registered (alanwayne1908, 55Test, 007, 2009Edge, Alfred_B, 2015_PSD, 5 invisible), 1953 Guests and 10 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
58292 Members
66 Forums
250891 Topics
4112247 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#3453152 - 08/12/14 07:44 AM Outer Tie Rods
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 8617
Loc: Western NY
I just installed the two outer tie rods on my '04 Altima. The castle nut(tie rod to steering knuckle) torque spec is 22-28 ft.lbs. Seems a bit low to me. I went 30 ft.lbs. on my beam style torque wrench as I was on my back, looking upward(no sarcasm laugh )

Any opinions on this spec?

Should I have gone a bit more?

Thanks,

CB
_________________________
"Retired"
'80 Firebird FORMULA V8/4bbl-NEW
'06 Mazda 3i 2.0L-Pre Owned
'15 Nissan Altima 2.5 SV-CPO
Still looking for a car for my wife(new, used, CPO)

Top
#3453171 - 08/12/14 08:00 AM Re: Outer Tie Rods [Re: Char Baby]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 29292
Loc: ME
Is it a nylock nut or did you have to stuff a pin through it?

Spec should be so-many ft lbs then crank it some more to line up the holes so you can stick the pin in, on a true castle nut.

Top
#3453175 - 08/12/14 08:02 AM Re: Outer Tie Rods [Re: Char Baby]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 8617
Loc: Western NY
Yes, there is a castle nut with cotter pin. And this is exactly what I did! Got close as I could see(looking up) and then lined up the hole for the cotter pin. smile

If I torqued the castle tooooo tight, is there a risk of pulling the joint out of the socket(over time)?


Edited by Char Baby (08/12/14 08:04 AM)
_________________________
"Retired"
'80 Firebird FORMULA V8/4bbl-NEW
'06 Mazda 3i 2.0L-Pre Owned
'15 Nissan Altima 2.5 SV-CPO
Still looking for a car for my wife(new, used, CPO)

Top
#3453187 - 08/12/14 08:21 AM Re: Outer Tie Rods [Re: Char Baby]
kschachn Offline


Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 5478
Loc: Upper Midwest
No it won't pull it out, the pin should not be bottomed out such that the socket is contacting the knuckle. If it is, then it would restrict movement. You might pull the threaded portion of the pin off the tapered part if it was way overtightened. Most likely it will just make it harder to get apart for the next time.

And you are right, it doesn't seem that tight. But it's the same for my cars and so far nothing has ever come apart smile

Originally Posted By: Char Baby
Yes, there is a castle nut with cotter pin. And this is exactly what I did! Got close as I could see(looking up) and then lined up the hole for the cotter pin. smile

If I torqued the castle tooooo tight, is there a risk of pulling the joint out of the socket(over time)?
_________________________
1994 BMW 530i, 206K
1996 Honda Accord, 217K
1999 Toyota Sienna, 348K
2000 Toyota ECHO, 254K

Top
#3453193 - 08/12/14 08:26 AM Re: Outer Tie Rods [Re: Char Baby]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 8617
Loc: Western NY
Thanks, I feel much better now! smile
_________________________
"Retired"
'80 Firebird FORMULA V8/4bbl-NEW
'06 Mazda 3i 2.0L-Pre Owned
'15 Nissan Altima 2.5 SV-CPO
Still looking for a car for my wife(new, used, CPO)

Top
#3453336 - 08/12/14 10:51 AM Re: Outer Tie Rods [Re: Char Baby]
Dufus2 Offline


Registered: 12/12/13
Posts: 252
Loc: Virginia
Normally you would tighten to around 40-50 and back off re-torque to 20+ to align pin. This is a Morris taper and does not require much torque once it is seated. Over tightening can split the casting or make it impossible to separate.
_________________________
ASE Certified in Med/Heavy Truck Service including A9
Heavy Equipment Repair, Fleet Maintenance
Real Cars Rattle and Smoke a Little

Top
#3453473 - 08/12/14 12:44 PM Re: Outer Tie Rods [Re: Dufus2]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 8617
Loc: Western NY
Thanks! smile
_________________________
"Retired"
'80 Firebird FORMULA V8/4bbl-NEW
'06 Mazda 3i 2.0L-Pre Owned
'15 Nissan Altima 2.5 SV-CPO
Still looking for a car for my wife(new, used, CPO)

Top