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#3203030 - 12/01/13 03:17 PM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: blackman777]
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Registered: 06/28/03
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Must be 4 more drops per gallon??????

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#3203230 - 12/01/13 06:31 PM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: dparm]
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Originally Posted By: dparm
Jesus [censored], can this site go more than a day without a thread about TopTierGas.com?


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#3203259 - 12/01/13 07:21 PM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: blackman777]
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Registered: 01/04/08
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Loc: Kellogg, IA
Originally Posted By: blackman777

It probably doesn't matter for older engines, but modern direct injectors clog easily and need a better gasoline. (Similarly modern diesels need no sulfur fuel... the old 5000ppm fuel is no longer allowed.)


Except in your example, the Government mandated the only ULSD diesel be sold for on road use. We don't have the same deal regarding the top tier stuff. The consumer is left to his own devices. Some of us live in areas where there is not a top tier fuel outlet for almost 50 miles. Folks is that situation are not going to burn up a few gallons of fuel running back and forth to get only a top tier fuel. So the whole idea of TT is moot. A shot of Techron occasionally will have to suffice.

Whenever I have gone to the metro areas, I have seen the Nitrogen in the gas signs at the stations. Made me wonder, NOx is a combination of oxygen and nitrogen in the combustion chamber. Why would anyone add more nitrogen to the mix? Wouldn't that generate more NOx? I have no clue. Just wondered when I saw the signs.
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#3203294 - 12/01/13 08:05 PM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: blackman777]
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Registered: 10/30/02
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Loc: Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: blackman777
It makes me wonder if Shell dropped the TTG certification?

hornets


How about visiting more than one gas station or just contacting Shell before you start stirring the pot?

BTW, it is not mandatory for gas stations to display a TTG logo, even if they are selling it.

In a matter of days, you went from not knowing what TTG is to now being an expert on it and throwing some TTG members under the bus, looking for some conspiracy theory and/or scam. Sheesh...
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#3203433 - 12/01/13 10:23 PM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: volk06]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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Originally Posted By: volk06
Just because a single gas station does not have a sign about top tier does not mean the company dropped it.

Bingo. As I've said in about eight of these previous TT threads, I've never seen any Top Tier markings at any Top Tier station up in Canada, and finding any references to it on any of their Canadian websites took some serious digging.

If people want to use it, use it. If they don't, don't. It's the same price up here no matter what, so I do.
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#3203527 - 12/02/13 01:10 AM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Registered: 01/08/13
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Loc: Santa Ana, California
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: blackman777
It makes me wonder if Shell dropped the TTG certification?
In a matter of days, you went from not knowing what TTG is to now being an expert on it and throwing some TTG members under the bus, looking for some conspiracy theory and/or scam. Sheesh...


I am fairly certain asking a mere question =/= throwing under a bus or implying a scam. It is merely asking a question. (So hypersensitive. Do you always get so defensive over a mere question? Ooops; I asked another question)

BTW I used Shell, not because of the TTG, but to see how the nitrogenized fuel works in my engine (so far; about the same). I have no negative opinion about the company.


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#3203723 - 12/02/13 09:21 AM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: blackman777]
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I suppose I over reacted a bit. smile Your initial post came across (to me) as trying to stir a controversy, but maybe I read too much into it. smile
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#3204396 - 12/02/13 09:11 PM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: blackman777]
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Registered: 12/22/02
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None of the three Shell stations near me advertise their gas as top tier, neither does the Exxon station I go to. In fact neither has any Shell or Exxon/Mobil station in my travels between NJ & Fl that I stopped at advertised at the station as being top tier gas. I think it's more a corporate advertisement. I feel that few people even know what top tier gas is or care. The people that do care do their research and know what brands are top tier.

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#3204520 - 12/02/13 11:22 PM Re: Shell's nitrogenized fuel - No longer Top Tier? [Re: Whimsey]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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For the marketing standpoint, I think it's basically marketed at those who pay attention. If one reads one's manual and sees it recommending Top Tier gas, one might go to the website and check what's Top Tier. For those who don't bother or don't care, I guess it doesn't matter much.

People are way more concerned with the numbers on the signage than they are with any Top Tier wording. wink
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