DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe.

Posted by: fullthrottle

DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 09:28 AM

I have a 2002 Coupe, and the specs on the oil are out of date. Oils have improved since then, and there is no more CMCC spec. It has been replaced by ASEA.

My manual says: "Use SAE 5W/40 API SG/CD - CCMC G5". That's impossible to find. SG/CD has also been superceded by letters further down the alphabet, as well.

see:
http://www.kuttenkeuler.de/kkweb/En/infoLubrAcea

This is what I'm going to use for my next DIY oil change:
http://www.specialtylubes.com/pennzoil-ultra-euro-5w-40-6-quarts.html

The specs on Pennzoil read:
Exceeds the requirements of ACEA A3/B3/B4.
Exceeds the requirements of API SM/CF and previous categories.
Ferrari Exclusive to Pennzoil UltraTM in the USA
(Maserati Coupe engine is essentially a Ferrari 4.2L V8, made in the same Ferrari factory.)

Pennzoil synthetic is better than what the auto came with from the factory. Of course I'll use an OEM filter. I don't think an aftermarket filter even exists.
Posted by: Turk

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 09:32 AM

First of all: welcome

The Pennzoil Ultra (PU as it's called here...) is a very good choice, but for further analysis, we'll need to see a pic. thumbsup

Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 09:45 AM

See the link I posted above about Pennzoil Ultra Euro 5w/40 synthetic.
Posted by: chubbs1

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 09:52 AM

I think he meant a picture of your car, not the oil. I want to see the car too!! Pennzoil Ultra 5w40 is a great oil and may I suggest Mobil 1 0w40 or Castrol 5w40/0w40 which are all oils that can be had for a much better price when on sale. Obviously your car does not ask you to meet very stringent spec's and the oils named above all meet highly regarded spec's.

Welcome to BITOG!
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 09:58 AM

I found what appears to be the best deal on the Pennzoil:
http://www.kellerheartt.com/Pennzoil-Ultra-Euro-5W-40-Full-Synthetic-Motor-Oil-p/550023653.htm

That's enough for 3 oil changes on the Maserati. It takes 2 gallons to fill it. It's what my Maserati dealer uses.

I don't know how upload an image, but here's a linked image to the photo on my Facebook page. I don't know if you can see it unless you're my "Friend". If not I'll put it on Photobucket or something:

Posted by: dparm

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 10:00 AM

Awesome car!

The Pennzoil Ultra 5w40 will work quite well, as it's become Ferrari's go-to oil in the past few years.

Alternatively, you could use Mobil 1 0w40, Valvoline SynPower 5w40, or Castrol Edge 0w40. All are readily available at your local auto parts stores.
Posted by: chubbs1

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 10:07 AM

Beautiful Car!!!!
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 10:09 AM

It is awesome. I bought it from a friend of mine for $30k. Had to get a new clutch. $5k.
It had only 22k miles on the odometer, but the clutch needs to be replaced every 20-30k miles.
That's the only repair I've had to do. Other than that it's in mint condition.

It has a Formula 1 type 6 speed paddle shift transmission called "Cambiocorsa". Also an automatic mode. ASR traction control and an active suspension called "Skyhook". It has a "Sport" mode which enables faster shifting, stiffer suspension, and opens up the exhaust more. It sounds like a big cat roaring. I've had a lot of fun with it.

It is a 4.2L DOHC, 32 valve, 390 hp, V8. My friend calls it The Beast. Top speed is around 180 m.p.h., but I've only been brave enough to hit 130.

The interior is completely leather. I mean entirely leather except for the carpets. The color is light tan, called "Tobacco".

I would never have bought one except for the great deal I got, and a dealer, Maserati of the Main Line in PA is only 12 miles away from me.
Posted by: Turk

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 10:13 AM

Beautiful Car & quality oil choice!

Mobil 1 0w-40 Euro Formula is great as well and as I posted in the deals/rebates forum, you can get 6 quarts of it + a Mobil 1 oil filter (not sure about your car though...) shipped free w/Amazon Prime all for $37.06.

It's another option for you... smile
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 10:14 AM

Thank you. I'll check it out.
I don't think an aftermarket filter even exists for this car.
I can get an OEM Maserati filter from my dealer for $28.
Posted by: Turk

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 10:18 AM

Originally Posted By: fullthrottle
Thank you. I'll check it out.
I don't think an aftermarket filter even exists for this car.
I can get an OEM Maserati filter from my dealer for $28.


Ok, just pick an oil filter for another of your cars! thumbsup
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 10:23 AM

I was looking at the K&N oil filters and air filters for my other car and truck. Especially the air filter, since you only ever need to buy one. You can clean and re-oil them.
http://www.knfilters.com/

BMC makes a reusable performance air filter for the Maserati.
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 10:45 AM

Another good, economical option for 5w/40 synthetic oil is LiquiMoly from Germany.

The specs are right on for Maserati as well as every other European car.

Synthoil Premium - Full Synthetic - API SM/CF, ACEA A3/A4/B4. MB 229.3 OEM APPROVED. BMW Longlife-98 OEM APPROVED. Porsche A40 OEM APPROVED. VW 502.00 / 505.00 OEM APPROVED. Case = (4) 5 Liter Bottles

LiquiMoly Synthoil Premium 5W-40 Engine Oil: Fully synthetic, energy conserving (fuel economy) SAE 5W-40 motor oil for the latest engine concepts (both gas and diesel), such as multi-valve arrangements, variable cam and timing configurations, turbocharging, supercharging, intercooling, etc. Saves fuel, provides instant lubrication after a cold start. Good for extended oil change intervals and highest demands.

long service life for the engine due to very high level of protection against wear
Miscible and compatible with commercially-available engine oils
Rapid oil delivery at low temperatures
Very high lubrication reliability at high and low temperatures
Very high shear and ageing stability
Outstanding engine cleanliness
Smooth engine running
Saves petrol and reduces pollutant emission
Optimum oil pressure at all engine speeds
Tested with catalytic converters and proven performance with turbochargers
Extremely low evaporation losses
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Posted by: dparm

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 11:46 AM

Originally Posted By: fullthrottle
Another good, economical option for 5w/40 synthetic oil is LiquiMoly from Germany.

The specs are right on for Maserati as well as every other European car.

Synthoil Premium - Full Synthetic - API SM/CF, ACEA A3/A4/B4. MB 229.3 OEM APPROVED. BMW Longlife-98 OEM APPROVED. Porsche A40 OEM APPROVED. VW 502.00 / 505.00 OEM APPROVED. Case = (4) 5 Liter Bottles




Except that it's rather expensive in the US for what you get. M1 is about $5/qt 365 days a year and has equal or better specs. Note that LM oil carries older specs like MB 229.3 and BMW LL-98, both of which were superseded a while ago.

It will work just fine, but for the same (or less) money, why not just get the better product?
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 11:50 AM

I think I may have found a great deal on the LiquiMoly for a 4x 5 Liter case for about the same price as the Mobil. I don't know about the specs you mention, but the specs I need for the Maserati are right on. I might even get the Pennzoil Euro 24 quart case and blend them. I'd have enough for 5 oil changes.

But, thanks. I want to know all my options.
Posted by: JR

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 12:19 PM

$28 For a oem filter, all i can say is wow.
Awesome car.

ken
Posted by: dparm

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: fullthrottle
I think I may have found a great deal on the LiquiMoly for a 4x 5 Liter case for about the same price as the Mobil. I don't know about the specs you mention, but the specs I need for the Maserati are right on. I might even get the Pennzoil Euro 24 quart case and blend them. I'd have enough for 5 oil changes.

But, thanks. I want to know all my options.



Mobil 1 0w40 is $25 for a 5qt bottle at Wal-mart (LM bottles are only 4 quarts). Are you saying you found a place that sells LM for under $5/qt?
Posted by: dparm

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 12:44 PM

Originally Posted By: JR
$28 For a oem filter, all i can say is wow.
Awesome car.

ken



That's not too bad. Most of the BMW cartridges are about $20ish from the dealer.
Posted by: 440Magnum

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 01:09 PM

You made a good choice for an up-to-date oil that meets the intent of the old specs. About the only better oil for that application that I can think of is Mobil 1 0w40.
Posted by: marco246

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 02:16 PM

I take it you are using a UFI brand oil filter. I'll bet there's a Wix or Baldwin that would fit. If you give me the UFI filter number I'll see if I can match it up.
Posted by: Quattro Pete

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 08:18 PM

Originally Posted By: fullthrottle

Amazon has it for $40/case with subscribe&save and free shipping.
Posted by: fdcg27

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 09:03 PM

Very nice machine.
I am envious.
If I were you, I'd just go with the OEM filter, probably your only option and M1 0W-40 from Walmart.
There really isn't a better oil for your engine.
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 11:02 PM

I just grabbed a rare deal on LiquiMoly on eBay! 2 cases of 4x 5 Liters. That's 40 Liters for $245 with shipping. It works out to $5.78 per quart. Enough for 5 oil changes in the Maserati. I'm all set now for Spring.
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/11/13 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: marco246
I take it you are using a UFI brand oil filter. I'll bet there's a Wix or Baldwin that would fit. If you give me the UFI filter number I'll see if I can match it up.


The UFI filter is for a different model. The Coupe uses a Purflux OEM Maserati filter part number 188814.
But, thanks. I'll keep looking for options.
Posted by: fdcg27

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/12/13 07:19 PM

Good deal for you.
I'm not sure that this oil is any better than M1 0W40, but it is a known good oil and should work well in your engine.
Posted by: fullthrottle

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/12/13 07:44 PM

I'm not really sold on Mobil, to be honest. I read all the reviews and the specs very closely, working with a 2002 owner's manual, that has outdated oil requirements, having been superceded several times by improvements to oil quality.

The best by far I believe, for my application, is the Pennsoil Euro Synthetic, which is what my Maserati dealer uses, and this LiquiMoly is a close second. I am going to take advantage of that Amazon.com deal mentioned on the Pennsoil, and blend the two 50/50 in my next oil change. What can I say? I'm a scientist.
Posted by: bigjl

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/18/13 12:34 PM

Would one of the Amsoil products be of use?

They do a Euro spec oil in 5w40 I believe and at much better price than you can buy Amsoil products in Europe.

I would be inclined to use Mobil 1 0w40 New Life but that is a personal preference

Liqui Moly is certainly a quality lube
Posted by: artificialist

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/18/13 07:00 PM

Originally Posted By: fullthrottle
I was looking at the K&N oil filters and air filters for my other car and truck. Especially the air filter, since you only ever need to buy one. You can clean and re-oil them.
http://www.knfilters.com/

BMC makes a reusable performance air filter for the Maserati.

I don't recommend them. The UOA section shows that many cars have higher than normal silicon levels when using a K&N instead of the paper style filter. Some other reusable filters might not have that problem, but I don't know for sure.
Posted by: 901Memphis

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 12/21/13 05:08 AM

The Mobil 1 0W40 really is that good. It is inconvenient to have such an expensive oil filter though. I guess with a Lexus suv and the maserati you can probably afford to spend more but the M1 from Walmart is a huge value for the money.
Posted by: Boss302fan

Re: DIY oil change for Maserati 2002 Coupe. - 01/03/14 10:09 AM

M1 0W40 or Ultra...