bmw oil

Posted by: lilrobo

bmw oil - 12/27/13 08:53 AM

i need to change my oil in my 05 bmw 325xi ,, for first time ,, i bought it used .. could someone help me with this ,, do i need to run synt oil and what weight

thanks
Posted by: salv

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 09:13 AM

Castrol 0w30,Castrol 0w40, Mobil 1 0w40 are the best options. 5w40 HDEO's are also good options.
Posted by: nepadriver

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 09:17 AM

Originally Posted By: lilrobo
i need to change my oil in my 05 bmw 325xi ,, for first time ,, i bought it used .. could someone help me with this ,, do i need to run synt oil and what weight

thanks


Owner's Manual

Page 120 and 121 might be a good start.
Posted by: dparm

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 09:23 AM

Any of these oils are BMW approved and available at most auto parts stores:

Castrol Edge 0w30
Castrol Edge 0w40
Valvoline SynPower 5w40
Mobil 1 0w40
Posted by: boxcartommie22

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 09:23 AM

make sure you use an oil that is longlife-04 approved bmw's requirments.
Posted by: shDK

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 09:52 AM

When it,s a petrol engine. The bmw LL01 might be. More suitable then the LL04. The reason is that the LL04 is a low/mid SAPS oil with lower tbn.

That being said, the LL04 is totally backward compatible with the LL01 and LL98
Posted by: MCompact

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 10:00 AM

I run Mobil 1 0W-40 in the identical engine and change it every 7,500 miles using a BMW filter. That has worked for me for over 159,000 miles.
Posted by: 901Memphis

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 10:43 AM

Mobil 1 0W40 jugs are about $25 at Walmart.
Posted by: Ramblejam

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 11:00 AM

Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Mobil 1 0W40 jugs are about $25 at Walmart.


This.
Posted by: Clevy

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 11:04 AM

Originally Posted By: MCompact
I run Mobil 1 0W-40 in the identical engine and change it every 7,500 miles using a BMW filter. That has worked for me for over 159,000 miles.


This.
For European vehicles I don't think there is a better choice,especially for the price.
Posted by: BISCUT

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 11:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: MCompact
I run Mobil 1 0W-40 in the identical engine and change it every 7,500 miles using a BMW filter. That has worked for me for over 159,000 miles.


This.
For European vehicles I don't think there is a better choice,especially for the price.


+ another....using this in 08 328 I6.
Posted by: lilrobo

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 11:16 AM

thanks guys ,, good info there

its git 120k on it now hope to see many more

wow 8 qts thats a lot of oil
Posted by: boxcartommie22

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 11:41 AM

the LL-04 is the most current spec.
Posted by: Clevy

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 12:01 PM

Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
the LL-04 is the most current spec.


Is LL-04 specified for the 2005 model/engine the OP owns,or is that the current spec for today's models?
Posted by: 901Memphis

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 12:13 PM

Originally Posted By: lilrobo
thanks guys ,, good info there

its git 120k on it now hope to see many more

wow 8 qts thats a lot of oil



Another reason to buy the M1 0w40 for $25 per 5.1 quarts and stretch it out to 7,500 miles so your not wasting money. You will pay at least $7 per quart for the BMW dealer synthetic oil when the M1 is less than $5. Heck they used to have this stuff on rollback IIRC it was like $22.47 around these parts, a heck of a deal.
Posted by: dparm

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 12:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Clevy
Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
the LL-04 is the most current spec.


Is LL-04 specified for the 2005 model/engine the OP owns,or is that the current spec for today's models?



It's backspec'd/supersedes the older ones like LL-98, sort of like how API SN oils supersede SM.

Also, since it's not a diesel, he technically needs LL-01, but LL-04 oils do meet LL-01 requirements (just not the other way around).
Posted by: JHZR2

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: lilrobo
i need to change my oil in my 05 bmw 325xi ,, for first time ,, i bought it used .. could someone help me with this ,, do i need to run synt oil and what weight

thanks


Did you even think to read the owner's manual for oil quantity or quality?

Start with BMW LL-01 and a good filter.
Posted by: shDK

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 01:42 PM

Even though bmw LL04 replace both LL01 and LL98. LL04 is mainly for the European market,and low sulphur petrol and diesel.Therefore the LL01 will be better for American high sulphur petrol. Because of the higher tbn.

I don,t now if American petrol still has more sulphur then europen?. If not LL04 is all good.
Posted by: dparm

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 01:56 PM

Originally Posted By: shDK
Even though bmw LL04 replace both LL01 and LL98. LL04 is mainly for the European market,and low sulphur petrol and diesel.Therefore the LL01 will be better for American high sulphur petrol. Because of the higher tbn.

I don,t now if American petrol still has more sulphur then europen?. If not LL04 is all good.



LL-04 does not replace LL-01. They are two different specifications.
Posted by: shDK

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 02:27 PM

http://www.oilspecifications.org/bmw.php

It does cower both LL98 and LL01. And therefore eventually it will replace it.
Posted by: MCompact

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: lilrobo
thanks guys ,, good info there

its git 120k on it now hope to see many more

wow 8 qts thats a lot of oil


A few more tips:

1. Plan on replacing the radiator/expansion tank/water pump/t-stat within the next year/10k miles- and refill with a 50/50 mix of BMW coolant and distilled water.

2. Have a good dealer or a good indie BMW tech check the condition of the vapor separator system(BMW's fiendishly complex PCV system)- if it clogs it can hydro-lock the motor with oil.

3. I'd change the diff oil and transfer case oil as well. If you have an automatic it's a toss-up as to changing the ATF if it has never been changed before. I probably would but there is the chance that a change will kill the tranny.
Posted by: edyvw

Re: bmw oil - 12/27/13 11:55 PM

Originally Posted By: lilrobo
i need to change my oil in my 05 bmw 325xi ,, for first time ,, i bought it used .. could someone help me with this ,, do i need to run synt oil and what weight

thanks

Stick to LL-01 High-SAPS oil. You do not need in that car LL-04.
Get GC, M1 0W40, Castrol 0W40, Pentosin 5W40, Pennzoil Ultra 5w40.
Posted by: nleksan

Re: bmw oil - 12/28/13 01:04 AM

As a collector, builder, and racer of BMW's, I've spent a lot of time working on figuring out what the best oil is formy needs and usage patterns wwhich range from varied driving DD to dedicated track cars.

The absolute best has been Redline, 0/5w30/40 depending on the location, and Royal Purple has been very good as well.

The M54 engines tend to sludge if the CCV/PCV system is not operating properly, which on most cars it's not.
Using just RL oil, I have not only kept my cars free from any sludge, but I (and the people who help me with my cars), have never seen an engine w such little visible wear as I saw after doing a teardown and inspection 20k miles after a bottom up build and FI install, literally zero camshaft wear!

It's not a cheap oil, and the OCI is going to be 5-7.5k, but if you're a new owner than I highly recommend doing a few OCI's w the stuff to help clean up anything left from the PO. The extended OCI a la BMW warranty has resulted in a lot of cars that look pristine but which have some nasty build-up inside the motor.
Posted by: dparm

Re: bmw oil - 12/28/13 10:01 AM

^ You own a 2003 M5? I am jelly.
Posted by: cutlassvillager

Re: bmw oil - 12/28/13 11:56 AM

I've had good results with M1 0w-40 in both an M52 and M54 motor. I've had better UOAs in my M52 using the M1 than the BMW oil.
Posted by: fast4d

Re: bmw oil - 12/28/13 12:49 PM

fwiw, we had a bmw 4.4L for 170k miles. after dealer maintenance expired I started using amsoil, mobil one, etc. about 80k miles in I said what the heck and started using rotella T5 ( or whatever version it was at the time). at 170k we got rid of it for a newer 4.8L version of the same model.

it still had the original trans. I started to drain/refill with quakerstate multi trans fluid at 60k.

I dont think we will get another bmw V8. way too many cooling parts/seals going bad even at 70k miles. I am not looking forward to doing the valley pan, coolant pipes, timing chain cover gasket after the warranty expires next year.

on our 2006 325i (n55 engine) I started using rotella T5 after 40k. at nearly 70k now.
Posted by: BMWTurboDzl

Re: bmw oil - 12/28/13 08:31 PM

Just buy the cheapest LL01 oil (dealerships oil is usually < $ 8 / bottle) IF you intend to follow the OLM. Otherwise you can buy just about any 5w40 or LL04 oil for short OCI.

Your I6 is very easy on oil.

Note. Due to inconsistent sulphur levels the LL04 is not suitable for the factory OCI on gasser cars in the US. You can use LL04 but I would not exceed 7.5k miles with it.
Posted by: nleksan

Re: bmw oil - 12/29/13 02:32 AM

Originally Posted By: dparm
^ You own a 2003 M5? I am jelly.


Yup. Fun car, expensive to modify but came as a Dinan Stg2 (replaced the struts w KW V3's).
Posted by: artificialist

Re: bmw oil - 12/30/13 08:03 PM

Castrol 5w40 can be found at certain parts stores, and it also meets BMW needs. Sometimes Autozone will have a "Buy X quarts get a filter free" with the Castrol 5w40. Advance does that sometimes, and they have Castrol 0w40.