New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230

Posted by: glum

New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 06:21 PM

I haven't done a brake job since the 1980s. My last one was probably a drum brake job on a GM vehicle. Those were fun! Anyway...

My 1999 M-B C230 needs new rear brakes--badly. From what I gather, ceramic is the way to go for the pads. I'd rather replace the rotors than try getting by with having them turned by some auto parts store guy.

Can anyone help me narrow down the choices? Good brands, things to look for, things to avoid--that sort of thing? The difference in prices even among parts that seem identical in quality and composition (from looking at descriptions) is shocking.
Posted by: The Critic

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 06:34 PM

http://www.MercedesPartsCenter.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=215720

I priced out a set of genuine rear pads and genuine rear rotors from that site. With shipping, it is only $170. On most European cars, you usually replace the rotors and pads together.

If the original equipment parts are reasonably priced, which they usually are if you purchase from a dealership that sells parts online, then I always go with them since they are guaranteed to work and deliver predictable performance.

Ceramic pads that you find in stores are best suited for cars that were never high-performance to begin with. I have read that installing ceramic pads on higher performance European cars, are a hit/miss. Ceramic pads from major brands are usually tuned for super long life, low dust and low performance. I would instead, rather install pads that were designed specifically for the vehicle and will deliver excellent stopping performance.
Posted by: HTSS_TR

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 06:55 PM

No shop will turn Mercedes rotor. If the rotor can not be re-use then you need to replace. For pads you want to stay with these German made: Pagid, ATE, Jurid, Meyle or Textar.
Posted by: The Critic

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 06:58 PM

Just remember that the Pagid, Meyle, Textar, etc "german" brands are really just the Raybestos, Centric, Bendix, etc of the German market. When you buy those german pads from worldpac, they are sometimes the aftermarket version of the OE supplier's brake product-- no guarantees that it'll function identically to the Genuine Mercedes product. I think a lot of people get confused when they see a Pagid or Textar product at worldpac and believe that it is the identical dealer product in a different box-- not always the case.
Posted by: AstroTurf

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 07:25 PM

I second or third the Genuine Factory replacement products.

But, If I were looking for another quality product, I would look at Hawk.

Jim
Posted by: Dan55

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 07:37 PM

If you were happy with the performance of the OE stick with them.
Posted by: Astro14

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 07:56 PM

I've had good luck with both Hawk and Akebono for pads. Brembo for rotors (stock replacement...nothing fancy...) - with the mileage and the typical MB specifications for minimum rotor thickness, I would simply replace the rotors vs. trying to turn them...

And the ceramic Akebonos on both Volvos are great for rotor wear (none), dust (none) and longevity. My wife's XC has nearly 50K on the pads - and they are still over 50% thickness. There was no loss in braking performance either...they cost a bit more, but are worth it.
Posted by: FowVay

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 08:08 PM

If you can find them I would buy Balo rotors and ATE pads for this application.
Posted by: disturban

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 08:45 PM

Hawk pads FTW with OEM rotors right from the MB dealer!!!
Posted by: artificialist

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 09:15 PM

I never have comebacks using whatever high grade NAPA pads and rotors fit a Benz.

Forget about machining a rotor on any German car. They wear so quickly that even if your rotor is above spec now, it will be below spec midway into the life of the replacement pads.

Also, low dust pads only go so far to reduce brake dust from a German car. Those fast wearing rotors contribute to more to brake dust than pad material itself.
Posted by: The Critic

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/05/11 09:28 PM

Originally Posted By: artificialist
I never have comebacks using whatever high grade NAPA pads and rotors fit a Benz.

Define "high grade." NAPA Safety Stop or NAPA Ultra Premium?
Posted by: Spartuss

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/06/11 12:12 AM

OEM if you are satisfied with the performance and price. If you choose to save a little, I have heard that Akebono Euro Ceramic Pads and Zimmerman rotors are great.
Posted by: artificialist

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/06/11 07:43 AM

Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: artificialist
I never have comebacks using whatever high grade NAPA pads and rotors fit a Benz.

Define "high grade." NAPA Safety Stop or NAPA Ultra Premium?

Ultra Premium or Adaptive One, whatever one is availible at the time.
Posted by: PandaBear

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/06/11 12:30 PM

It depends on how important "Genuine OEM" or "German Engineering" are to you.

There are lots of brake pads that give you same or even better performance than the Mercedes OEM pads rotor for less, much less. Those high performance street pads with FF to GG ratings are usually sufficient unless you track your car, and if you do track your car, the OEM Mercedes pads probably aren't sufficient anyways.

Usually, OEM will have less noise and dust to avoid warranty works.
Posted by: volvos_rock

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/06/11 01:22 PM

Ill second Astro on the Akebono pads and the brembo direct replacements. Just did the front of the XC for $200, including new ATE hoses and a tube of ATE lube. Ive also had good luck with ATE premium one rotors and heard good things about Zimmerman rotors. Not the area you want to go cheap on wink. Check out FCPGroton.com.
Posted by: hattaresguy

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/06/11 03:26 PM

Stick with OE or OEM on Mercedes for best results. I had great luck with Textar and ATE.


Don't forget to get the wear sensors if your C class has them.
Posted by: Thermo1223

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/06/11 05:08 PM

I installed ATE Powerslot Rotors & Mintex Red Box Pads on the Jetta many moons ago and they were great.

The rears were Brembo blanks & Red Box as well.

I always liked the stopping power.
Posted by: glum

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/06/11 06:07 PM

I just ordered OEM parts from a site that I am now so aggravated with I don't want to give them any exposure. I appreciate all the input. Hopefully the installation process isn't a nightmare.
Posted by: mechtech2

Re: New brakes for Mercedes-Benz C230 - 06/06/11 09:51 PM

Do you have internal drum brakes for the emergency brake?
Get your battle plan and parts together first - all materials.

Which rotor? It is a dice game nowadays - no guaranties.