Gulf Coast on Cummins - Pics!

[kd460]

Very nice install. I like the location. I'm not trying to be a critic, but, did you consider installing a splash shield in the rear fender well? In this pic, it looks like the filter might get it's fair share of road junk:

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Otherwise, it looks like I'm going to copy your install (not gulf coast). What kind of hose did you use? Looks like air compressor hose. Thanks, KD

 

[acewiza]

Here's the results of my latest installation:

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I guess they're not making paper towels the way they used to, because I managed to get three full rolls in there by just re-rolling them tighter. I think hanging it from the right-front corner of the bed is probably a new mounting variation. That was the only place I could find where the thing would fit properly, completely out of the way. Took 22' of tubing to connect it, but oh well. It was a three person job getting it in there, with both my daughters holding bolts and associated hardware while I jockeyed it into position. The darned thing weighs about 45lbs. full of oil! Yes, I did pre-fill this one, just this one time to check for leaks before I committed it to installation. Took over two hours to get it filled with about 5 quarts.

If this truck doesn't turn out to be one of the million-mile Dodge Cummins, it won't be for my lack of trying!

 

[Gary Allan]

Gotta love having room to go big. Nice install.

 

[acewiza]

The tubing is 1/4" Weatherguard dual-layer nitrile-core rated for 300psi. I'm not too worried about road junk hitting the filter. Not sure what it is, but it feels like cast iron.

One thing I am concerned about is the flow rate. It is pushing a steady stream through the 1/4" line. It's not like it is under alot of pressure at the return, just a slow, steady stream, probably I'd guess around 1-2 quarts/minute. The instructions said that is the target flow rate and there is a "built in" restrictor. I could not see anything other than the media itself restricting the flow through this filter. Wondering if maybe I should try to slow it down a little...

 

[Shaman]

Is this one of the Alaska Gulf Coasts I see on ebay?

 

[acewiza]

Yep. Got it from a guy up in Alaska. Took awhile to get here. Well worth the wait if you call Gulf Coast and ask them how much they want for one.

 

[Shaman]

I have seen them for a long while, but the only vehicle I have right now to put one on would have more filtering CC's than it has engine CC's.

 

[acewiza]

Good point. This filter is certainly not recommended for a consumer application on anything other than a full-sized diesel pickup. Even then, the mounting options are limited. But you gotta go big on a diesel if you want it to hold up for more than a few thousand miles. I'll make a progress report after I see how it goes. One reason I chose to return it right under the filler cap is so I can visually monitor the flow rate to see when it begins to slow from clogging.

 

[TheTanSedan]

I admire this installation.

22' is a lot of line. Sounds like the hose is high-quality, but I'd certainly support it every six inches or so with insulated Adel clamps.

http://www.adelwiggins.com/CatDtl.cfm?cid=103

I moved away from the ordinary SS worm-drive clamps a while back. I prefer the "constant torque" type on all fluid hoses (where a hard line with hoses at connection points for movement is not feasible. Hard line also has less flow loss I believe).

http://www.breezeclamps.com/ct.htm

Thanks for the writeup. That is one massive filter for a light duty truck!

 

[RalphPWood]

I put a Gulf Coast 0-1 filter on the crossmember next to the automatic transmission on a new Dodge Cummins a couple of years ago. I don't sell them now. I had to have a big filter that could filter down to the submicronic level like the Motor Guard with enough capacity to handle a 750 HP Caterpillar marine engine. The only way I could think of to do that was to find a big element with the density of TP and a housing for it. I ended up with a Fleetguard LF-750 housing and adapting it to take two rolls of Kimberly Clark Center pull paper towels. The elements are more expensive but the element is a lot bigger and the oil will be a lot cleaner. I remember Frantz had a similar system back in the 70s but my thing was little filters then.

Ralph

 

[acewiza]

Thanks, Tan. Those sure are some fancy clamps. The hose is routed where it is well supported, and tied down as appropriate. It's not going anywhere.

I just wish I could find some better media. Gulf Coast wants an arm and a leg for their media and I have no reason believe it is any better than the compressed PT I am using. We'll see how the first UOA looks here after another couple weeks or so...

 

[gr40rcapri]

Ace- i just purchased my GCF, and like you, i was BAFFLED as to where in the ________ to mount the ________ thing...(GCF recommends the PS frame...but if you try there, the bottom bolt holes are below the frame...not to mention on my truck, the supports for the sport-side steps get in the way

)

i ALMOST thought of inside the bed after i saw your under the bed deal... looks good there..

as far as the filter media goes, i've researched this before i bought my GCF...the BIG Bounty rolls seem to be one of the best...i've also seen the Kleenex VIVA to be quite dense..

doing a quick search, i found this VERY interesting: http://magazines.ivillage.com/goodhousekeeping/consumer/kitchen/articles/0,,284516_290098,00.html

J

 

[gr40rcapri]

ACE-- your truck is sweet, man! that's probably one of the nicest 1st gen's i've ever seen...

unless it's your toy, you guys must not get road-salt in CO, as it's super clean... even the #1 cyl exit port on the exhaust manifold is rust free!!!!

very clean

 

[acewiza]

Thanks, I've only been the 3rd owner, since around midsummer. PO had it since '95, rarely used it. Started life in AZ. I guess you could call it the work toy. It'll be doing plenty of hauling and towing, but not in bad weather if I can help it. They use mag chloride on the roads here. Probably not as bad as salt.

Re-rolling the PT was not a big deal. Took 20 minutes. Probably just keep doing that with whatever the wife happens to have in the cupboard, since it will only be a once-a-year thing. I was surprised though, at how much more it would compress by doing it manually. Might want to try it.

 

[gr40rcapri]

Ace-

what method did you use to reroll the TP and keep it straight? something similar to rolling a sleeping bag? just patience and some re-straightening every so often?

thanks!

i wish my 2nd gen was as clean as that...just from the winters up here some of the powdercoat on the fuel lines, valve covers, etc is coming off.. grrr...

 

[acewiza]

Yes, basically. I unroll it onto a chair behind the table, then have one of my daughters hold it back on the table surface with the palms of her hands with just enough restistance to get it nice and tight as I re-roll it. It actually makes a crunching-like sound as it compresses while you are rolling it. After the first one you can leave the 2nd still rolled up sitting on the chair as you transfer it to your new and improved PT oil filter roll. You have to be very careful to constantly adjust it to keep the edges pretty straight, or it will not fit back in the keeper. I've done two so far. Last one took about two and half rolls of Bounty. Works good, lasts a long time!