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#586096 - 12/16/02 04:02 AM Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
Ok guys heres my first test of the tdi. Wetterauer chip installed at 20k, I run the Oilguard bypass filter, b100 fuel exclusively aside from 2 tanks of b20 during this 10k.
Oil analyzers/ctc lab
Delvac 1
10,200 miles on oil
30,200 on vehicle at test time.

Spectrochemical
Iron 43
chromium 3
lead 1
copper 6
tin 9 or possibly 0, the fax is a bit blurry, but I believe 9
aluminum 5
nickel 1
silver again, 9 or 0, looks like a 9
Silicon 7 (stock paper filter)
boron 106
sodium 2
magnesium 550
calcium 2544
barium 0
phosphorus 1233
zinc 1317
moly, titanium, vanadium, and potassium all zero.

Physical Properties
fuel <1
vis @100c 14.13
water 0
soot/solids 0.9%
Glycol negative

Additional tests
TBN 7.21
Oxid 11.0
nitr 13.0
f-soot 0.27

Ok Oil gurus, have at it...please let me know what you think. Whats the difference between f-soot and soot/solids? Do we think the tbn really depleted all the way to 7.2 or is this the characteristic problem with CTC's analyses, as has been mentioned previously.....?

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#586097 - 12/16/02 04:08 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 19274
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
I thought the bypass filters were supposed to virtually eliminate engine wear, yet the iron looks awfully high.

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#586098 - 12/16/02 04:11 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Terry Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas
NO offense lightman but why don't you ask those questions of the lab that you paid to analyze the oil ?

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#586099 - 12/16/02 04:29 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
Terry, no offense, but what is this site for? [Roll Eyes]

Regarding my CTC lab question, it arose because Ted/tooslick had mentioned before that CTC's tbn ratings are generally lower than oil analyzers', so if I was to be comparing tbn results, expect a bit lower from CTC's lab.

Patman, do you really think iron is that high at 43 after 10,200 miles on a chipped car?

I should also note, that b100 biodiesel fuel was used the whole time, aside from two tanks of b20...in case ppl missed that..

To others who may actually have helpful responses...please do [Smile]

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#586100 - 12/16/02 04:37 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Terry Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas
I wasn't being smart or attempting to jerk you Lightman, I just can't believe that a service would not inform its customers more than that. [I dont know]

I'm outta this string. [Duh!]

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#586101 - 12/16/02 04:43 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
No hard feelings going around, ppl relax [Smile] . Anyway, I figure ppl here have a good opinion as they've seen a lot of results. Also there are a few experts that do lurk around this forum. I've heard back from a few ppl and it seems the b100 has possibly diluted the fuel a bit.

Apparently also, CTC's results(according to tooslick) have generally been showing about 1.5 pts lower than Oil analyzers results.

I would use a different lab entirely if I hadn't of bought 10 kits a few years ago from OA. Now they sub out their lab work to CTC, which takes forever. They had my sample nearly two weeks before I got results... I agree, the service is poor, but I've already paid unfortunately. It was pretty good service when OA was doing them a while back...

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#586102 - 12/16/02 05:16 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Giles Offline


Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 403
Loc: California
I'm surprised by the total number of solids in your sample based upon having a bypass filter. I'm not familiar with Diesel oil results however. This looks like a case where a professional opinion may be warranted.

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#586103 - 12/16/02 05:18 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Terry Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas
So I lied, I'm back. [freaknout]

F soot is fuel soot for the diesel. Soot solids is a combined reading of oil solids due to nitration and coking. Those look average to slightly on the clean side. Is the EGR gumming up or remaining clean using the BD?

Air filtration is excellent.

TBN is fine and normal, depends on what method they use to titrate the oil, don't worry about the value but compare to next sample.

Every value is normal for a stock TDI so with you having the chip changing things and burning a little hotter it looks very good.

The wear metal generation at approx. 4 ppm per 1000 miles is normal for these engines.

Silver should be 0 not 9 and if its 9 I would think the coating on the turbo is coming off really early on. Check with CTC once you see the hard copy if it shows any silver.

Tin should be 1 or 0.

Change oil,Full flow,change Bypass filter and take oil drain to 15,000, provided no problems with fuel delivery etc.

Now I feel better [Happy]

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#586104 - 12/16/02 05:52 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Terry Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas
So I'm inarticulate using kompuuter terms [Razz]

Patman still likes me [Canada]

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#586105 - 12/16/02 05:55 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
Thanks much terry for your reply. I sure hope those are 0s and not 9's...

Thanks for the explanation of the f-soot and solids difference. Both of these look pretty low compared to results I've seen on chipped cars, which I guess I attribute to the bypass filter...., kinda cancelling out the extra wear type effects the chip is giving. I'll check with CTC regarding the two numbers.

Dunno how this affects people's views, but I should note that my driving style is about 1000miles/week for work, 85mph highway driving 80% of the time....so this run of oil definitely didn't sit for any extended periods. Dunno if that means anything but thought i'd throw it out there! [Smile]

[ December 17, 2002, 05:12 AM: Message edited by: Patman ]

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#586106 - 12/16/02 06:13 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Terry Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas
[Off Topic!] No harm no foul, I'm used to being teased by my kids about my lack of 'puter PC savvy [LOL!] Skins thick like my head.

I just beat them because I can ! [Dummy!] Just kidding..... [Coffee]

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#586107 - 12/16/02 06:15 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Greg Offline


Registered: 07/20/02
Posts: 371
Loc: Port Colborne, ON
do you beat them with a plastic cup as shown in your post? [Coffee]

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#586108 - 12/16/02 06:16 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Terry Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas
Whatever I can reach.... quick. [Patriot]

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#586109 - 12/16/02 06:19 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Terry Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 3845
Loc: Greenville , Texas
Both you boys stop, [crushedcar] and don't make me get the cup out!

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#586110 - 12/16/02 01:11 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 19274
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
quote:
Originally posted by Terry:
So I'm inarticulate using kompuuter terms [Razz]

Patman still likes me [Canada]

Yep! [Canada]

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#586111 - 12/16/02 01:12 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Patman Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 19274
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
quote:
Originally posted by Lightman:


Patman, do you really think iron is that high at 43 after 10,200 miles on a chipped car?


Normally I would say no, but with a bypass filter I thought that you would normally only see single digits for all wear metals, even if you ran the oil for 20-25k.

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#586112 - 12/18/02 02:40 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
dragboat Offline


Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 1933
Loc: Oklahoma
Lightman,
Thank you for posting your analysis on the forum. Thats why Bob set this section up to post and ask questions that may concern you or for others to see what might have been missed ,in this case the type engine and how it's driven along with possible previous oil getting in the way of the best run of this oil,,whatever the previous oil might have been I suspect a dino,of course could be wrong.
Too bad the post got derailed but for what it's worth it shows the rings are a harder material than the block and as the block seasons the iron will come down a bit imo with a but,it is driven pretty hard and it looks like a good result for the type motor and how it's driven. That motor is still young yet and the rings look to be seated.Quite a feet for a chrome ring ;)Also remember 100ppm of FE is still OK if not looking for a perfect world.It looks like the oil held the Fe down better than most could have

What was the previous oil used ? If not Delvac that could have knocked the TBN down imo

For consistency with the next I suggest using the same Lab
EDIT:
I see you have purchased multiple kits already. Thats cool,they will get faster as time goes along but really that was not too long to get a report back imo. It was the Holidays,lotsa mail ect [Cheers!]

[ December 18, 2002, 06:58 PM: Message edited by: dragboat ]

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#586113 - 12/18/02 03:04 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Al Offline


Registered: 06/08/02
Posts: 13581
Loc: Elizabethtown, Pa
Interesting-calcium is high like Mobil 1 (with supersyn), and no moly or barium like the old TriSyn. I wonder if Delvac 1 will start adding Moly (seems like they should for Diesel). If not-why not?? [I dont know] Anyone know??

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#586114 - 12/18/02 03:34 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
dragboat Offline


Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 1933
Loc: Oklahoma
quote:
Originally posted by Al:
Interesting-calcium is high like Mobil 1 (with supersyn), and no moly or barium like the old TriSyn. I wonder if Delvac 1 will start adding Moly (seems like they should for Diesel). If not-why not?? [I dont know] Anyone know??

I am not sure why a good FM is not in the forumulation. It seems a motor firing at about 17.1 compression un boosted could use all it could muster from a oil. Maybe the JASO M/C Spec ? and whoever the Diesel engine maker who does not like Mo have a part in this although I think the boron is a diffent type that is a doule duty additive and gives some FM protection? Dunno but some 132 added maybe ?
[Wink]

Is the CAT branded DelVac 1 the exact same as the Mobil Delvac 1 ???????????

[ December 18, 2002, 07:41 PM: Message edited by: dragboat ]

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#586115 - 12/18/02 05:13 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
yes cat branded delvac is the same as delvac 1. No nothing BUT delvac 1 was ever run in this engine. The xmas mail thing has nothing to do with why it took so long to get my results, they had my sample sitting there for almost two weeks, and fax results....no mail time needed. They are slow because oil analyzers has transitioned all of their analysis from in house over to cleveland technical center, as they were swamped at OA.
As far as diesel oils go, I dont believe moly or friction modifiers are a good thing, but I can't tell you why. There was a good post in the fuels/lubricants section going about moly in diesel oils, but I didn't really read too much of it.

One thing many may have overlooked, although I mentioned it earlier, is that this 10,000 miles was run completely on b100 biodiesel fuel. This characteristically thins out the oil a bit from fuel dilution, as well as CTC's characteristically known for generally lower tbn ratings than other popular labs. I'm not worried about these results as they look good for a car thats driven really hard.....many times during this 10k I went 90-95mph for 30-45minutes (shots across alligator alley) and at least average 80mph 80% of my driving.

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#586116 - 12/18/02 07:42 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 14378
Loc: Midwest
It appears they are relying on borate esters for the AW/EP's, and the base esters for their FM's.

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#586117 - 12/18/02 05:11 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
porterdog Offline


Registered: 10/24/02
Posts: 294
Loc: Detroit (Rock City)
Lightman's analysis shows fuel<1, but then says that the biodiesel is known to thin oil. My question is this- is the biodiesel enough different from normal petrol that the lab might miss it? Another way- are the spectra associated with diesel fuel [bio- or otherwise] radically different from those of petrol?

TIA,
Robert

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#586118 - 12/18/02 05:26 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
jjbula Offline


Registered: 07/04/02
Posts: 479
Loc: Montgomery, AL
Does the bypass filter hide any of the wear?

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#586119 - 12/18/02 07:01 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Bio-T Offline



Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 5336
Loc: London, AR
quote:
Originally posted by jjbula:
Does the bypass filter hide any of the wear?

The correct answer to your question is a definite Yes, with a qualifier. The same happens with a Full Flow Filter, it removes the larger particles, and the bypass will remove those particles down to say 2 micron. A few smaller, but for the sake of discussion I use 2 micron. So theoretically we are seeing the PPM of particles 2 micron or smaller. These are the wear particles. So in general terms I would say the analysis of a bypass filtered oil is just as accurate for wear. Now if you were doing a particle count then the bypass filter would show only particles below 2 micron in that count. (If some larger particles settled out in the pan, then some would be larger in the count.) This is general, and I am not discussing type analysis ect.

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#586120 - 12/18/02 07:30 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
one could also say that a bypass filter reduces wear, by removing the abrasive particles/wear metals that would normally still be floating around the oil.

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#586121 - 12/18/02 09:24 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
TexasTDI Offline


Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 371
Loc: TYLER, TEXAS
quote:
Originally posted by dragboat:
I am not sure why a good FM is not in the forumulation. It seems a motor firing at about 17.1 compression un boosted could use all it could muster from a oil.

The CR of the TDI is 19.5:1, down from 23:1 in the older 1.6 diesels.

A chipped TDI produces boost upwards of 28psi IIRC.

Chris Thornton
Amsoil Dealer #1098500

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#586122 - 12/18/02 10:27 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
dragboat Offline


Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 1933
Loc: Oklahoma
quote:
Originally posted by TexasTDI:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dragboat:
[qb]I am not sure why a good FM is not in the forumulation. It seems a motor firing at about 17.1 compression un boosted could use all it could muster from a oil.

The CR of the TDI is 19.5:1, down from 23:1 in the older 1.6 diesels.

A chipped TDI produces boost upwards of 28psi IIRC.

Well your info is fine and dandy but I do not think Mobil designed the Delvac 1 specifically for a VW, modified or not. Do you ? [Smile]

[ December 19, 2002, 02:30 PM: Message edited by: dragboat ]

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#586123 - 12/18/02 11:26 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
My tdi puts out 20psi max(spike) and settles to a maximum boost of 16psi, Chipped. Stock is 12-13psi. Some more aggressive chips will reach boost spikes of 25psi and settle at 18 or 19psi....

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#586124 - 12/19/02 01:23 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 14378
Loc: Midwest
I don't think the iron wear is all that bad for a diesel; it's only about 4.25 ppm/1k.

On my NIssan gas truck, I'm lucky to get 3.5 ppm/1k, so by comparison, I thinks it did very well.

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#586125 - 12/19/02 06:44 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
TexasTDI Offline


Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 371
Loc: TYLER, TEXAS
quote:
Originally posted by dragboat:
Well your info is fine and dandy but I do not think Mobil designed the Delvac 1 specifically for a VW, modified or not. Do you ? [Smile]

Mobil designed Delvac-1 for big trucks, not VW's. If they did, it would meet VW 505 specs like Amsoil does. [Wink]

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#586126 - 12/19/02 06:55 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
G-MAN Offline


Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 8854
Loc: SC
quote:
Originally posted by TexasTDI:
quote:
Originally posted by dragboat:
Well your info is fine and dandy but I do not think Mobil designed the Delvac 1 specifically for a VW, modified or not. Do you ? [Smile]

Mobil designed Delvac-1 for big trucks, not VW's. If they did, it would meet VW 505 specs like Amsoil does. [Wink]
How do you know Amsoil actually meets the VW 505 specs?

Edit: I just took a look at the Amsoil web page and their HD/diesel oils. Nowhere does it say the oils meet the VW 505 spec. What it does say is the oils are "Recommended for Applications Requiring the Following Specifications:" and then gives a long list including VW 505. All Amsoil is saying is that if you require an oil that meets VW 505, they recommend their oil. That's NOT the same thing as saying the oil meets the VW 505 spec.

[ December 20, 2002, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: XHVI ]

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#586127 - 12/19/02 07:00 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Dick in Falls Church Offline


Registered: 06/01/02
Posts: 1394
Loc: Falls Church VA
>>>I would use a different lab entirely if I hadn't of bought 10 kits a few years ago from OA. Now they sub out their lab work to CTC, which takes forever. They had my sample nearly two weeks before I got results... I agree, the service is poor, but I've already paid unfortunately. It was pretty good service when OA was doing them a while back...

Just got a batch of kits (before the price goes up end of year). The new kits are addressed directly to OAI testin in Cleveland, so turnaround time should be cut. Have also heard that reports will be available online (shortly?)

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#586128 - 12/20/02 01:02 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
Well now I know what Chris' handle on this forum is!! LOL [Wink] Thought you could hide and start a amsoil/delvac debate!? [Mad] just kiddin, lol.

Regardless of comments posted above or what the oil is designed specifically for, its been beaten to below the graveyard on the TDI club, and Delvac 1 and Amsoil are the two best oils for tdis, price not an object. Period. [Smile]

Chris, how does this compare to your results, your TDI is chipped?

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#586129 - 12/20/02 06:42 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
TexasTDI Offline


Registered: 09/16/02
Posts: 371
Loc: TYLER, TEXAS
quote:
Originally posted by Lightman:
Chris, how does this compare to your results, your TDI is chipped?

I haven't had my oil analyzed yet. So far I've got about 4000 miles on Amsoil 15w-40. I'll change the oil when it reaches 10k miles and have an analysis done.

And yes, I have the UPsolute chip. [Big Grin]

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#586130 - 12/20/02 06:46 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
Please post results when you do. Do you have a bypass filter on your tdi? I wonder what my wear metals etc would have been without it. I do drive my car really hard and use the chip's benefits per say..

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#586131 - 12/31/02 01:59 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
dbrowne1 Offline


Registered: 06/21/02
Posts: 282
Loc: VA
quote:
Originally posted by Lightman:
My tdi puts out 20psi max(spike) and settles to a maximum boost of 16psi, Chipped. Stock is 12-13psi. Some more aggressive chips will reach boost spikes of 25psi and settle at 18 or 19psi....

[Off Topic!]
Which chip are you running, just out of curiousity? There's an Upsolute dealer in my town who has a MkIV TDI Golf running their chip, bigger injectors, carbon fiber intake, big brakes, 17" wheels, etc. When he gets on it, it's a big puff of sooty smoke and he's GONE. Quick car.

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#586132 - 12/31/02 02:03 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
I have the wetterauer chip. Since I have a 2002 TDI i have the sachs(weaker) clutch, and the boost spikes and higher torque of the up chip are known to slip clutches quickly. The wett makes similar horsepower with slightly less torque as UP chip ,and stresses the turbo out less. The downside is that you have to mail off your ecu and be without your car for a few days, unless you live near indiana. It wasn't a big deal for me, i just drove the other car, but not everyone has the option.

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#586133 - 01/17/03 07:01 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
GeorgeCLS Offline


Registered: 07/30/02
Posts: 531
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
Dick in Falls Church: From my years of experience of dealing with CTC, good luck. I live in Columbus, Ohio. CTC is in Cleveland, Ohio. My average turn time was about 2 weeks with next day UPS to CTC; that is if CTC did not completely lose the sample! That was a little over a year ago when I stopped using CTC as one of our labs. CTC is a 'low bid' laboratory; they do all the analysis for the majors and have managed to eliminate almost all the oil company in house labs. Now including Amsoil... I honestly was sorry to hear it Dick. I am certain that CTC is doing the analysis for about half of the cost at Oil Analyzers. However, this is indeed a case of 'ya get what ya pay for"... As in inconsistent results, slow turn times, lost analysis, incorrect analysis results (someone else's!). These have all occured with analysis I have sent in. There is something special about having to call a customer and tell him that the oil analysis for his critical gearbox was 'lost' in the lab... One does not get a second chance to do this..... I still can't believe Amsoil did this given their 'quality' approach to everything. CTC's reputation is horrendous in the field........

George

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#586134 - 01/27/03 05:19 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
DABEAR95 Offline


Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 157
Loc: Roseville, MI
[Off Topic!]

I really need to find someone in my area so I can take a ride in a chipped TDI. My primary concern is longevity for my Golf but I can't help my curiosity [Smile]

Jason

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#586135 - 01/27/03 06:47 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
Lightman Offline


Registered: 09/17/02
Posts: 150
Loc: Cleveland, OH
jason if you're thinking about it, DO IT. There is no comparison, I really almost can't stand driving my tdi with the stock chip when I have to(taking it in to the dealer for instance)....it's night and day.

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#586136 - 01/28/03 04:47 PM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
DABEAR95 Offline


Registered: 01/08/03
Posts: 157
Loc: Roseville, MI
They make a removable chip? That is the biggest reason I have not done it yet...

What brand do you use, my email address is JSirek@comcast.net?


Jason

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#586137 - 07/02/03 01:36 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
GregH Offline


Registered: 05/08/03
Posts: 211
Loc: Rome, Ga
Does anyone know what the purpose of the Magnesium is . I see that Mobil also uses it in it Delvac 1300.

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#586138 - 07/02/03 02:01 AM Re: Delvac 1 results in 2002 Jetta TDI(diesel)
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 14378
Loc: Midwest

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