Doesn't much look like $5 per quart oil anymore does it. Maybe $3.50...quote:
Originally posted by 427Z06:
Sure hope they tweaked the base oils and improved the additive quality before lowering it across the board. Otherwise, I beginning to think this M1 EP business is nothing more than a marketing snowjob.
Even if this strategy was intended to deal with the SM/GF-4 constraints, I hope they start lowering the price on the regular M1 and keep the M1 EP close to the old M1 price.
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CatSYN Delvac1 Trk/SUV Mobil 1
Visc- 5W40 5W40 5W40 5W40
Ag - 0 1 0 0
Al - 1 0 1 1
B - 65 58 72 59
Ba - 0 0 0 0
Ca - 2487 2145 2513 2040
Cr - 0 0 0 0
Cu - 0 0 0 0
Fe - 1 1 2 2
K - 1 1 2 1
Mg - 469 444 488 420
Mn - 0 0 0 0
Mo - 0 3 1 1
Na - 0 0 0 0
Ni - 0 0 0 0
P - 1167 1074 1257 1059
Pb - 0 1 0 0
Si - 4 5 5 5
Sn - 0 3 6 0
Ti - 0 0 0 0
V - 0 0 0 0
Zn - 1292 1204 1368 1187
5u - 1764 24481 17330 18435
10u - 85 3162 2013 2065
15u - 26 323 220 274
20u - 12 50 41 53
25u - 5 16 16 19
50u - 1 2 1 3
75u - 0 0 1 0
100u - 0 0 0 0
ISO Code - 18/12 22/16 21/15 21/15
Don't know, someone sent it to me and I sent it back. I do remember one of the oils said "European Formula" so something to that effect.quote:
Originally posted by ebaker:
I've never seen M1 5w40 (except truck and SUV) in the US. Is it a European oil?
With regard to MoDTC, levels less than about 500 ppm are friction reducers and secondary anti-oxidants. At levels above 500 ppm, moly is an AW, FM, and an anti-oxidant.quote:
The 148 ppm of Boron indicates to me that a high quality borate dispersant is present.
In regards to Moly, remember that this also functions as an anti-oxidant, and quantites over 100 ppm are a crutch for the base oil and not for AW protection.
I suppose it is approprate but you have to wonder where this oil fits in. It's under $4 a quart now at Walmart in 5qt jugs but how is it superior enough compared to their own Drive Clean 7500 to justify the price? If the claim is that the DC7500 is good for 7500 miles were does that leave this version of M1?quote:
Originally posted by Blue99:
Well, I think it is now apparent that the M1 GF-4/SM version is not formulated to include the additive levels typical of an extended drain oil.
The 148 ppm of Boron indicates to me that a high quality borate dispersant is present.
In regards to Moly, remember that this also functions as an anti-oxidant, and quantites over 100 ppm are a crutch for the base oil and not for AW protection.
If the majority of M1 users, running the SL version, were on a 5K to 7K OCI, why is this add pack not appropriate?
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API: SL/CF
Full Synthetic - European Car Formula
Oil Brand Mobil
Oil Blend Mobil 1
Visc Label 0W40
Kine Visc 13.9
Ag 0
Al 2
B 188
Ba 0
Ca 2930
Cr 0
Cu 0
Fe 1
K 1
Mg 26
Mn 0
Mo 71
Na 3
Ni 0
P 956
Pb 0
Si 4
Sn 3
Ti 0
V 0
Zn 1074
ISO Code 21/16
PQ 23
PVi 3