New Shell Oil for Bikes?

[Jon]

According to a friend, Shell just released this new oil for motorcycles. After trying many (most) of the available oils for bikes, and finding Amsoil the best for the things I care about, I wonder how this new stuff will stack up?

http://www.shell.com/home/Framework?siteId=advance-en

 

[userfriendly]

Shell's Advance line of lubricants have been around for a while, just not in North America with the exception of a few marine and two stroke oils.

 

[Jay]

That's a great link, Jon, thanks!

 

[medic]

As far as I can figure out, this stuff is still not available in the US. Sounds like it might be good stuff, but I have a feeling it's gonna be harder to find than the German Castrol 0w-30.

 

[Propflux01]

What? a new holy grail to find??!!

 

[medic]

I did some searching and I think the "synthetic" ultra 4 10w-40 may be a group III base oil (not sure.

Shell Advance ultra 4 10w/40

It also appears that the Shell Advance ultra 2 (two stroke?) may have 30-60% synthetic base oil with some group III added in.

Shell advance ultra 2

Can anybody interpret this for me?

 

[Motorbike]

The Ultra 4 is Shells Slax Wax Basestock like the 5/40 Rotella uses and the Ultra 2 appears to be roughly a 30% Pao - 30% Slax Wax and 30% dino

 

[scooter996]

I am not sure where the evidence or proof is that Amsoil being the bset. I am sure it has something to do with ball bearing test or something that really isnt required by the SAE. Yes you will get more horsepower using Amsoil. However your bike will run 20-30 degrees warmer. I tested all fully synthetic oils on the same dyno, same viscosity, the same bike in identical conditions. Mobil 1 made the bike run the coolest and provided 2nd greatest power gains. Ill take less heat for better protection any day of the week over total HP gains. Amsoil is a good product dont get me wrong.

 

[wulimaster]

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Originally posted by scooter996:
I am not sure where the evidence or proof is that Amsoil being the bset. I am sure it has something to do with ball bearing test or something that really isnt required by the SAE. Yes you will get more horsepower using Amsoil. However your bike will run 20-30 degrees warmer. I tested all fully synthetic oils on the same dyno, same viscosity, the same bike in identical conditions. Mobil 1 made the bike run the coolest and provided 2nd greatest power gains. Ill take less heat for better protection any day of the week over total HP gains. Amsoil is a good product dont get me wrong.

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Can you publish the test and results?

 

[trey]

I too would like more info on those facts.

 

[scooter996]

Let me check if I still have results. It was done 3 years ago on my zx-11. Ill see if I can. I would feel bad in a way because I am sure all products have been reformulated since then but let me check before I say no.