I read a thread from 2011 that they cheaped out huge and are using cardboard end caps- is this true? Always used WIX in my LS1 but as i work for a dealership down the road from a GM store, I can grab one of theirs at cost.
What's the story with AC Delco filters?
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Originally Posted By: Striker
I read a thread from 2011 that they cheaped out huge and are using cardboard end caps- is this true? Always used WIX in my LS1 but as i work for a dealership down the road from a GM store, I can grab one of theirs at cost.
What makes them "cheap", at least in the context you are saying? They sure bond better to the filtering element and don't come loose. I can't see a downside.
I read a thread from 2011 that they cheaped out huge and are using cardboard end caps- is this true? Always used WIX in my LS1 but as i work for a dealership down the road from a GM store, I can grab one of theirs at cost.
What makes them "cheap", at least in the context you are saying? They sure bond better to the filtering element and don't come loose. I can't see a downside.
Nothing wrong with saying with Wix
I'm old school and prefer metal end caps. Must be a reason the Fram Ultra uses metal and their cheaper line (xtra and tough guards) uses the fiber caps. Come to think of it, all of the top shelf filters use metal.
I'd stick with the WIX you're using or, if you must go AC DELCO, just grab the part number without the E in the part #. The E (PF48E) means ecore with fiber end caps and no E (PF48) means traditional metal end cap filter.
I'd stick with the WIX you're using or, if you must go AC DELCO, just grab the part number without the E in the part #. The E (PF48E) means ecore with fiber end caps and no E (PF48) means traditional metal end cap filter.
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Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I'm old school and prefer metal end caps. Must be a reason the Fram Ultra uses metal and their cheaper line (xtra and tough guards) uses the fiber caps. Come to think of it, all of the top shelf filters use metal.
Because of consumer perception, not for a technical reason.
I'm old school and prefer metal end caps. Must be a reason the Fram Ultra uses metal and their cheaper line (xtra and tough guards) uses the fiber caps. Come to think of it, all of the top shelf filters use metal.
Because of consumer perception, not for a technical reason.
Originally Posted By: kschachn
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I'm old school and prefer metal end caps. Must be a reason the Fram Ultra uses metal and their cheaper line (xtra and tough guards) uses the fiber caps. Come to think of it, all of the top shelf filters use metal.
Because of consumer perception, not for a technical reason.
Except for the Ultra, its metal mesh backing requires a metal end cap. The way the M&H end caps have been popping off & potentially releasing potting material, & Fram adding more pleats to the Extra Guard, fiber/engineered media end caps are doing better for 5K or less OCIs.
Originally Posted By: GMBoy
I'm old school and prefer metal end caps. Must be a reason the Fram Ultra uses metal and their cheaper line (xtra and tough guards) uses the fiber caps. Come to think of it, all of the top shelf filters use metal.
Because of consumer perception, not for a technical reason.
Except for the Ultra, its metal mesh backing requires a metal end cap. The way the M&H end caps have been popping off & potentially releasing potting material, & Fram adding more pleats to the Extra Guard, fiber/engineered media end caps are doing better for 5K or less OCIs.
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
Except for the Ultra, its metal mesh backing requires a metal end cap. The way the M&H end caps have been popping off & potentially releasing potting material, & Fram adding more pleats to the Extra Guard, fiber/engineered media end caps are doing better for 5K or less OCIs.
Yes this is true. However, I don't know why there would be a limit to the OCI.
Except for the Ultra, its metal mesh backing requires a metal end cap. The way the M&H end caps have been popping off & potentially releasing potting material, & Fram adding more pleats to the Extra Guard, fiber/engineered media end caps are doing better for 5K or less OCIs.
Yes this is true. However, I don't know why there would be a limit to the OCI.
Originally Posted By: Striker
I read a thread from 2011 that they cheaped out huge and are using cardboard end caps- is this true? Always used WIX in my LS1 but as i work for a dealership down the road from a GM store, I can grab one of theirs at cost.
Use a Mobil 1 oil filter or your Wix. The Mobil 1 is relabeled by GM as an ACDelco UPF48R and sold for use in the 'vette. I had startup noise with the ECORE, despite the upside down mounting of the filter that holds oil. All I know is that something was going wrong. Return to use of Mobil 1/UPF48R, noises gone. Just one man's experience. The number of vehicles on the road using the E-core filter is a testament to its working, but I want better than working, I want working well and best.
I read a thread from 2011 that they cheaped out huge and are using cardboard end caps- is this true? Always used WIX in my LS1 but as i work for a dealership down the road from a GM store, I can grab one of theirs at cost.
Use a Mobil 1 oil filter or your Wix. The Mobil 1 is relabeled by GM as an ACDelco UPF48R and sold for use in the 'vette. I had startup noise with the ECORE, despite the upside down mounting of the filter that holds oil. All I know is that something was going wrong. Return to use of Mobil 1/UPF48R, noises gone. Just one man's experience. The number of vehicles on the road using the E-core filter is a testament to its working, but I want better than working, I want working well and best.
Is PF61 the large oil filter that will fit my LS1?
Working? Or just not immediately blowing up the engine
Who makes Mobil 1 Filters?
Who makes Mobil 1 Filters?
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Working? Or just not immediately blowing up the engine
Who makes Mobil 1 Filters?
Please. Another ridiculous statement just like your one that dumping coolant into a municipal septic sewer is punishable by jail time in some localities (which you never responded to by the way).
Where is there any evidence that even over a long period of time a an e-core filter design is detrimental, and more so to the point of "blowing up" an engine?
Working? Or just not immediately blowing up the engine
Who makes Mobil 1 Filters?
Please. Another ridiculous statement just like your one that dumping coolant into a municipal septic sewer is punishable by jail time in some localities (which you never responded to by the way).
Where is there any evidence that even over a long period of time a an e-core filter design is detrimental, and more so to the point of "blowing up" an engine?
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