Zero Emission Power Stations...

[Shannow]

Quote:
The Alamitos Battery Energy Storage System (BESS) — a second project on the same site — will be 300 MW of interconnected, and 600 MW of flexible, zero-emission battery energy storage.


Somebody quipped the other day that the next power stations will be powered by electricity, and it seems it's the case...

And it's cheap as well...

Quote:
Our $1.3-1.5 billion private investment in the combined projects will contribute millions a year to grow Long Beach’s local economy and generate additional tax revenue to help pay for local services.


http://www.renewaesalamitos.com/AES-Alamitos-Fact-Sheet-2015.pdf

Quote:
The project cements California's dominance over the market for energy storage due to AB 2514, the landmark legislation requiring the state’s investor owned utilities to procure 1.3 GW of energy storage by 2020.


http://www.utilitydive.com/news/aes-to-p...-storag/423171/

 

[Danno]

There's a gas plant being built as well. As for cheap, never when gubmint has their big thumb on the scale

 

[SteveSRT8]

Yep, factor in some greed and crony capitalism for the process. Plus a few subsidies.

Shanow, please extrapolate what the battery life is like. Wouldn't these plants be expensive with periodic replacements?

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8


Shanow, please extrapolate what the battery life is like. Wouldn't these plants be expensive with periodic replacements?


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4141423/Levelised_Cost_of_Energy_Stora

 

[SteveSRT8]

Thanks for that. I figured as much.

I am sure this will be promoted as "free energy"...

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: Danno
There's a gas plant being built as well.


true, it said that one was included...but the batteries are ZE, aren't they ?

 

[Danno]

Originally Posted By: Shannow
Originally Posted By: Danno
There's a gas plant being built as well.


true, it said that one was included...but the batteries are ZE, aren't they ?

Birth to death? Not even close.

 

[IndyIan]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Yep, factor in some greed and crony capitalism for the process. Plus a few subsidies.

Shanow, please extrapolate what the battery life is like. Wouldn't these plants be expensive with periodic replacements?

The battery life is the issue, but perhaps we are getting into 30-40 yr lifespans with stationary batteries run in their sweet spot 99% of the time. Electric and hybrid car batteries get run up and down much more and they seem to be lasting quite well, some into their second decade.
The curve on solar panel price per KW is still dropping while battery storage per dollar is rising, so its likely at some point they may replace even base load energy generation in sunny places atleast.
On a micro scale for a single home, the numbers are almost there in Ontario, to just generate and store your own electricity. Another couple years and the equipment will only get cheaper.