Cesna Citation Mustang - First impressions

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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
The Honda Jet which is a competitor to the Mustang retails for $4.5 million. It's cruising speed I believe is 435 mph. Not sure why they would cost so much more.


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Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
A nice single engine prop is the Cessna Corvalis TTX. More for personal flying and fast for a single engine. One of the guys on another car forum has one. He bought a new one after his first one was due for a major overhaul because of the hours on it.


The company also owns a Cirrus SR22, I believe the trim level is GTS, that the owner spends a fair bit of time in. It is a really nice little prop plane. We had an SR20 previously but he decided to upgrade.
 
Nice jet, well built, great avionics and ergonomics.
However, in the enroute ATC environment it's insanely slow comparably and a general speed bump for other jet traffic. We routinely step climb them around other aircraft and level them at non-optimal altitudes because of the speed differentials with conflicting traffic. It's just too difficult to accurately vector traffic around when you're dealing with such unequal speeds. Same for Eclipse jets.

But stepping up from a Navajo, it's amazing!
 
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You mean a Lancair?
This thing has as much Cessna DNA in it as the 717 has that of Boeing.
A really fast, spacious and capable single is the Pilatus PC-12, but that would be an order of magnitude more expensive to buy and operate than any piston single.
A Cessna 208 would also be very capable in terms of room and useful load but it isn't at all fast and lacks pressurization.
 
We used to call the Citation the Slowtation. Straight wing meant slow cruise speeds and lower cruise altitude.

Nice cabin and an easy airplane to fly.
 
Originally Posted By: 757guy
We used to call the Citation the Slowtation. Straight wing meant slow cruise speeds and lower cruise altitude.

Nice cabin and an easy airplane to fly.
My neighbor retired airline pilot calls them beginners jets ,east to fly and get your jet rating with. Pilots are fun! a couple of the kids in the neighborhood I used to hang out with dads were airline pilots were always fun to hang out with.
 
Which also means that many models of them can be safely operated single pilot by guys coming out of piston twins without an insane amount of training.
FWIR, the Learjet guys used to call the Citation the Nearjet.
It may not be fast, but it is well designed and well built with simple systems as well as needing much less attention to the engines while flying than any piston twin, not to mention having no prop pitch or mixture controls to play with.
Years ago, **** Collins wrote a flight review of the early Citation for "Flying" and he wrote that it was the nicest flying Cessna he'd ever experienced, which says a lot, since he'd flown every postwar Cessna model and owned a number of them.
 
Originally Posted By: 757guy
We used to call the Citation the Slowtation. Straight wing meant slow cruise speeds and lower cruise altitude.

Nice cabin and an easy airplane to fly.


The original Citation 500 has an interesting upgrade called the "Eagle II" conversion. Using the Williams engines, much like the Mustang.

It's still a straight wing, but with more fuel. Cruise speed is under 400Kts, but WAY better than nearly all turboprops, with the Piaggio Avanti being the exception (as it has a 400Kt cruise) . Interestingly, the Eagle II "Slowtation" is often faster on East coast trips such as PBI-TEB than the Avanti.

These little jets also consume less fuel than comparable turboprops on given trips.

Jets are jets and props are props.
 
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