Tire time for the Sable, opinons please

[earlyre]

Technically i could get away with only buying 2 tires, since the dealer replaced 2 before i bought the car(~2years/16k mi ago)
but i never liked playing the 2 tire game, just do all 4 and be done.

anywho, the vehicle is my 2009 Mercury Sable(FWD),currently wearing a mixed set of the OE tires, Pirelli P6 225/55 18 98H.

always liked Pirelli's, but there were reports of selling out to the Chinese, so...no...

always hear good things about Coopers, and they are a "local" company (corp. headquarters about 45 min away), so thinking about them, and also always heard love for certain Generals.

Looking online, at a local Indie Tire shop,
in my Size, in those brands, for prices all in the same basic ballpark:

Cooper:
CS3 Touring 98H ($127/ea)
CS5 Grand Touring 98T ($137/ea)
CS5 Ultra Touring 98H ($138/ea)
General:
Altimax RT43 98H ($139/ea)

Normally I like to find reviews of each tire, for that specific year and Model of car, but not seeing much Luck online with Discount or tire rack. (doesn't look like tirerack even carries Coopers..)

I just need a good set of all seasons. no super dooper performance tires, it is a Mercury Sable after all.

so what say ye BITOG the great and powerful?

 

[skyactiv]

Easy answer being from Ohio, Cooper.

 

[skyactiv]

Oh, I wouldn't downgrade to the T rated tires. They will most likely have less steering response than the OEM tires.

 

[slacktide_bitog]

Get the CS5 Ultra (H). Cooper has a rebate promo going on right now, $70 off the CS5, which will make it roughly the same price as the CS3 (the CS3 is only $50 off)

 

[earlyre]

Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Easy answer being from Ohio, Cooper.


but which one? CS3, or CS5?

 

[901Memphis]

Originally Posted By: earlyre
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Easy answer being from Ohio, Cooper.


but which one? CS3, or CS5?


The CS5, since it's the newer version of the CS3 with upgraded design

 

[Mike242GT]

I have the H-rated Cooper CS5 Ultras on the '94 Volvo in my sig. I have to say that I have been impressed with both the wet and dry performance of these tires. My g/f has the Altimax RT43s on her Subaru Impreza, and these are very good, too. I don't think you can go wrong with either of them.

 

[earlyre]

Man, I really miss the 15" wheels on my last 3 cars... Stupid 18's... Their online"total" price for the CS5 ultras is just shy of $600. I've never spent this much on tires...

 

[ram_man]

Check out Nexen tires we sell them where I work they are an exceptional tire with a great warranty I'd date say they are just as good as Michelins.

 

[mrsilv04]

Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Originally Posted By: earlyre
Originally Posted By: skyactiv
Easy answer being from Ohio, Cooper.


but which one? CS3, or CS5?


The CS5, since it's the newer version of the CS3 with upgraded design


No, it's not. The C3 and C5 were released at roughly the same time.

You're thinking of the CS4. But I'm sure you knew that.

 

[earlyre]

http://www.4ktire.com/shop/?s=225&si=55&d=18&n=4&search=

Hopefully that link works, and shows what they have to offer. If anyone sees something better...

 

[Doc8404]

We just put CS5 Ultra H on the Nissan.
My dealer is always the cheapest.
Only brand they carry that weren't buy three get one free.
$111 each mounted etc
nY fees of $4/tire
8.75% tax
$70 rebate
$410 net.

 

[earlyre]

huh... the CS5 Ultras are $129 ea. on Discount direct, with a $40 instant discount on 4, and free Shipping...
so..
4 x $129 = $516
OH Fees ($1/per)=$4
7.5% tax (sales tax in my county is 6.75%, not sure why they are saying 7.5)= $36
Instant Rebate =-$40
$516+$4+$36-$40=$516 Delivered.(then there's the $70 Cooper rebate, so $446 effectively)
then the trick is getting them mounted.

 

[Brent_G]

Cooper CS3 Touring
The newest addition to the Cooper Tire passenger line. The CS3 Touring, with Stabiledge™ Technology, provides all-season performance with premium features without the premium price.
•5-Rib Tread Pattern with Lateral Grooves
•3D Micro-Gauge Siping™
•Stabiledge™ Performance



Tire Size
225/55R18

Service Description
98H

Load Range
SL

Sidewall
BLACK

Part Number
90000023795



Diameter (in)
27.76

Tire Weight (lbs)
26

Max. PSI
44

Section Width (in)
9.1



Appr. Rim Width (in)
6-8

Max. Load (lbs)
1653

Tread Depth
10



Limited Mileage Warranty
50000

UTQG
440AA


Type TL/TT
Tubeless

Sell Price $109
List Price $139.90

Cooper CS5 Ultra Touring

The Cooper CS5 Ultra Touring Tires are designed specifically for drivers of premium sedans and luxury touring cars. Top of mind for Cooper in engineering the CS5 for these vehicles was safety, comfort, agile handling and an ultra quiet ride.
•True all season tire
•Delivers exceptional traction and steering response on dry roads
•Impressive hydroplaning resistance
•Short braking distances in wet and wintry conditions



Tire Size
225/55R18

Service Description
98H

Load Range
SL

Sidewall
BLACK

Part Number
90000020216



Diameter (in)
27.76

Tire Weight (lbs)
27

Max. PSI
44

Section Width (in)
9.1



Appr. Rim Width (in)
6-8

Max. Load (lbs)
1653

Tread Depth
11



Limited Mileage Warranty
60000

UTQG
620AA


Type TL/TT
Tubeless

Sell price $122.00
List Price $154.20

Cooper CS5 Grand Touring


Cooper CS5 Tires, in their latest Grand Touring iteration - are the company's best touring tires to date. A premium all season tire for your sedan, minivan or small crossover.
•Asymmetric tread design
•Advanced tread siping
•Delivers an exceptionally responsive and quiet ride



Tire Size
225/55R18

Service Description
98T

Load Range
SL

Sidewall
BLACK

Part Number
90000020174



Diameter (in)
27.76

Tire Weight (lbs)
28

Max. PSI
44

Section Width (in)
9.2



Appr. Rim Width (in)
6-8

Max. Load (lbs)
1653

Tread Depth
11



Limited Mileage Warranty
80000

UTQG
780AA


Type TL/TT
Tubeless

Sell Price $121
List Price $153.10

Prices are without any rebates FYI

 

[SatinSilver]

Originally Posted By: earlyre
http://www.4ktire.com/shop/?s=225&si=55&d=18&n=4&search=

Hopefully that link works, and shows what they have to offer. If anyone sees something better...


You could get some 80k/T rated Mastercrafts installed for $512 out the door after tax. Which is a good deal and those tires are made by Cooper. They seem identical to me.

 

[Brent_G]

Originally Posted By: SatinSilver
Originally Posted By: earlyre
http://www.4ktire.com/shop/?s=225&si=55&d=18&n=4&search=

Hopefully that link works, and shows what they have to offer. If anyone sees something better...


You could get some 80k/T rated Mastercrafts installed for $512 out the door after tax. Which is a good deal and those tires are made by Cooper. They seem identical to me.


Specs on the LSR's

The LSR Grand Touring represents the latest in luxury, all-season touring performance for a wide range of passenger vehicles. The LSR Grand Touring is built around innovative design and technology that delivers a well-blended and balance of all-season performance and long tread life.
•SCS technology 3D siping enhances handling in wet and dry conditions
•Asymmetric tread design provides excellent all-season performance
•Coupled silica compound improves wet handling, braking and fuel economy
•Computer-optimized tread profile provides even wear and a long tread life
•Four wide circumferential grooves provide better wet traction and handling




Tire Size
225/55R18

Service Description
98T

Load Range
SL

Sidewall
BLACK

Part Number
90000023884



Diameter (in)
27.76

Tire Weight (lbs)
27.69

Max. PSI
44

Section Width (in)
9.2



Appr. Rim Width (in)
6-8

Max. Load (lbs)
1653

Tread Depth
11



Limited Mileage Warranty
80000

UTQG
780AA


Type TL/TT
Tubeless

Sell Price $105.00
List Price $135.50

 

[fdcg27]

You realistically have until next winter before you really need to worry about tires in OH.
There will be lots of deals between then and now.
I'd at least wait until the inevitable sales that come each Memorial and Independence days.
What do you want to spend?
If you want stay at the lower end, the General RT43 has had good reviews here and on CR.
A little higher and the Pirelli P7 AS+ has good reviews here and on CR.
Coopers don't seem to offer as much wet or snow grip as either of the above, but the one set of Coopers I've had seemed perfectly adequate in these conditions and they also wore very well.
There is also a universe of cheaper tires available.
You don't do many miles, so a tire offering good wet and snow performance might be more of a priority for you than one offering long tread life.

 

[901Memphis]

Actually I didn't realize the CS3 was such a new design, I remember talking about them in 2013 and assumed they were the predecessor to the CS4

 

[Doc8404]

Don't know what to tell those posting prices.
Like I said my dealer beats everyone.

$111 each mounted. Period. Then taxes and NY fees.


http://www.moderntiredealer.com/news/399809/cooper-launches-new-premium-touring-tire

 

[Doc8404]

Then again mine are only 16"