No Job for College Grads?

[doitmyself]

Originally Posted By: Subdued
is this an old man "this is my experience so everyone should experience this" thread?


Yes. And now it enters the classic BITOG chest beating phase. Too funny, but very predictable. "I graduated college when there was 2 feet of snow on the ground. I had to walk 3 miles to my interview through the snow and it was uphill both ways."

 

[oldmaninsc]

Originally Posted By: sayjac
Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
.....And needless to say, they don't waste their time obsessing over motor oil or vehicles in general.

That's where you just lost me Pops. But unsurprising. And, apparently not so needless that it couldn't be left unsaid.

Coming from anyone else I'd consider it an odd comment on an oil forum. You, not so much.

Guess they don't waste their time posting about their God children's accomplishments on an oil forum either.

Exactly. You have to love the hypocrisy of some people.

 

[Mr Nice]

Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: sciphi
My own personal experience has been that hard work does pay off eventually. Knowing where to focus talents and skills before working hard at an area counts for more.

Agreed. All three of the examples I mentioned (plus a number that I didn't) are extremely hard working, focused young people who have set their personal goals high and are working to achieve them. They shatter the myth that there aren't jobs out there for college graduates, and that all "millennials" have an entitlement attitude.

And needless to say, they don't waste their time obsessing over motor oil or vehicles in general.


Again, it depends on the career field and education / training, skill set.

We are looking for a technician (BMET 2) $30 an hour and (BMET 1) $26 an hour. Internships are $21 an hour and 6 months later you are offered a full time position. Some people's electronics experience is only knowing how to turn their TV. That's why we try and look for ex military cause they have the prior experience.

 

[Silverado12]

Originally Posted By: JTK
You can have a career without a college degree, starting in the low $20/hr range in fields such as mine. We still have a fair amount of turnover and new hire young folks believe they deserve more. It's frustrating because it takes years to become skilled.

It's all about the individual. Persevere and you'll succeed.


Same here with trucking. Too many young people aren't interested in the trade combined with low pay that the "entry level" companies pay and you have a driver shortage. My son is a machinist and found a job quickly, although it doesn't pay really well. My other son has a B. S. degree in computer science and couldn't find a decent job so he's working on his masters.

 

[Mr Nice]

Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Some fields are easier to have a job after graduated, such fields as Computer Engineer, Healthcare ... Not only easy to find job the salary is reasonable too. A registered nurse with no experience can make 60-70k a year in So Cal, with 4-5 years experience the salary can be 80-90k a year plus benefits.


My sister in law is a Nurse Practitioner and makes around $140K, but that's after 20 years of being an RN. Sales is another area that an RN can specialize in, I know an RN that when from being a Cath Lab nurse.... into sales for Cordis (Johnson & Johnson) and makes a lot of money. Orthopedics is another area that you can make big $$$$ as a nurse.

 

[Lapham3]

It seems that with all the aging boomers, health care fields will be very good. That RN student should find out early tho that they can in fact 'stand the sight of blood'! In the end, the job applicant has to 'sell themselves' in all ways with the hiring process.

 

[Mr Nice]

Problem is some people go into healthcare for the money and they absolutely hate their job. I see it everyday but no job is perfect especially when you have many layers of politics and egos to deal with.

 

[JTK]

Originally Posted By: doitmyself
Originally Posted By: Subdued
is this an old man "this is my experience so everyone should experience this" thread?


Yes. And now it enters the classic BITOG chest beating phase. Too funny, but very predictable. "I graduated college when there was 2 feet of snow on the ground. I had to walk 3 miles to my interview through the snow and it was uphill both ways."


I hope no one expected tales of woe from Camp Pop_rivet.

 

[doitmyself]

Originally Posted By: JTK
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
Originally Posted By: Subdued
is this an old man "this is my experience so everyone should experience this" thread?


Yes. And now it enters the classic BITOG chest beating phase. Too funny, but very predictable. "I graduated college when there was 2 feet of snow on the ground. I had to walk 3 miles to my interview through the snow and it was uphill both ways."


I hope no one expected tales of woe from Camp Pop_rivet.


None whatsoever. Lets face it. This site becomes rather boring when the entertainment factor is missing. We need comic relief when the likes of GHT are missing. Who doesn't admit to clicking on the threads that you know will bring a smile to your face, even though you know its real life value is almost nil?

 

[Mr Nice]

Originally Posted By: JTK
Originally Posted By: doitmyself
Originally Posted By: Subdued
is this an old man "this is my experience so everyone should experience this" thread?


Yes. And now it enters the classic BITOG chest beating phase. Too funny, but very predictable. "I graduated college when there was 2 feet of snow on the ground. I had to walk 3 miles to my interview through the snow and it was uphill both ways."


I hope no one expected tales of woe from Camp Pop_rivet.


I wonder what his kids are doing for their careers.

 

[Drew99GT]

Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
I was in manufacturing assembling construction equipment, telehandlers more specifically. I was trying to go into service technician at that same place; fixing issues with units on the lines or before they left the factory. I was more than capable.
I was always helping the techs to the point they gave me my own set of electrical and hydraulic schematics. Just to the machines on my line so I could fix them if they were busy or something. I often had the diagnosis before they would arrive, I would just need their sign-off on it if it was something big, like a cylinder or manifold replacement, which I would get like 98% of the time. Usually it was some electrical issue and I would have everything running again quickly.


Sounds like my old job doing field service for 15 years.

That's what I'd like to do, but its hard to show my capability. My title was always 'Production Specialist' same as 1000 other people at the same company. So nothing to show for it really.


I'm like you in that I'm not very talkative or social, but to get a decent job in a decent company, you kind of have to open up and be able to present yourself to others, especially HR people. My advice is to PRACTICE. A LOT. If you get an interview, go over the multitude of questions you will likely encounter and practice what you intend to portray about yourself. You will always get the BEE ESS questions like what are your strengths and weaknesses, what makes a successful work environment, how well do you work with others, what do you do about conflict in the workplace etc. It's OK to tell them you're somewhat introverted but that you strive to build good work relationships, which you probably actually do well once you're in the job and get to know people. You can use that as the weakness part of your answer. I always do and it works because it shows you're cognizant of it and work to better yourself.

Next time you have an interview, make a thread about it a week prior and have the people on this board post potential questions so you have some good answers for the interview, and practice the interview WITH the clothes that you will wear for the interview. You don't need to have robotic type scripted answers memorized, but the general concept for how you will answer certain questions.

 

[wtd]

I graduated college in 1989 with a degree in Criminal Justice. It took me 2 1/2 years after graduation to find a job in my field. The reason was I had no experience and that was what every place that I interviewed at wanted.

I finally got a decent Federal job that pays okay but not great, that I've had for almost 25 years.

My fiancee's son graduated High School two years ago, went to welding school for six months and started out making at least twice what I make. A year ago he applied and got hired on with the railroad as a laborer making more than he was making as a welder. He just recently was promoted to a supervisor.

This kid has about six times more money in savings that I do, way more in checking, paid off a $16,000 Polaris Razr in about 8 months and almost has his $43,000 truck paid off in less than two years.

Sometimes things just work out for people.

Wayne