Ok, What to do about convicted sex offenders?

[GROUCHO MARX]

I'm sure most, if not all of us are sick about the latest child to be killed by a convicted sex offender.

I don't think a guy like this can ever be released into society. One child's life is just not worth it. JMO

 

[deepsquat]

unfortunately my thoughts exceed the limits of our constitution( and the fact that some convivted sex offenders are innocent) ...but other then that ...like the case in Florida ...where we know he is gulit ...he admitted it AND led the police to the body ...and that shows 10000000% guilt I say kill the ******* ...I will even pay pal them the $$ for the bullet!

 

[GROUCHO MARX]

I was thinking that after prison the rest of life is spent at a secured mental health facility, at the very least.

 

[Scooby]

This may sound extreme, but sometimes I am.

First, I am a law abidding and God fearing man.

I have an 11 month old girl that is my entire life. I am totally honest when I say that if ANYONE ever did ANYTHING to her, the judicial system would not be troubled with him.

 

[keith]

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Originally posted by Scooby:
I have an 11 month old girl that is my entire life. I am totally honest when I say that if ANYONE ever did ANYTHING to her, the judicial system would not be troubled with him.

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With two daughters myself, I know how you feel. I simply can't imagine the anguish felt by this girls parents, and what horrors the girl went through.

Let's try and set a new record with this vermin for the least time from crime to lethal injection.

 

[pitzel]

I think the rate of reoffending would be substantially and dramatically reduced if these (usually) men would receive proper psychiatric counselling and help within the correctional system. Anyone involved in corrections will tell you that just increasing the harshness and severity of punishment usually and often leads to far worse consequences over the long run than originally intended.

Most of the time, sex offenders are isolated from the general prison population for security reasons. While this allows them to survive their period of incarceration, it leads to the end result of an individual who is probably suffering from more mental illness than when they first incarcerated for their sex crimes.

Its a terifically hard thing to do, and takes a lot of political and administrative courage to do, but I think increasing funding to sex offender rehabilitation programs within the jails is the only way the 'problem' will effectively be tackled within our 'civil' society. A common theme with sex offenders is that most of them are themselves the victims of sexual abuse as children -- a perpetual cycle that spans generations.

I don't think having elaborate sex offender registries, which, AFAIK, are filled full of individuals convicted for statutory rape, ie: 20 year olds convicted for sexual relations with a 16-year-old, or a conviction for the unwanted grabbing of the hiney of someone really does a lot of good. The emphasis needs to be on putting sex offenders back on the street either 'cured', or not putting them back on the street at all if they cannot be rehabilitated.

[ March 20, 2005, 02:41 AM: Message edited by: pitzel ]

 

[Shannow]

personally, once they have "served their time", they would be rehabilitated back into a community...that looks just like the one that we inhabit now, but with a 20 foot high wall around it.

Those who were barbers can be barbers, but in a community of people who behaved similarly when given the opportunity to be normal.

Those who were butchers, bakers and candlestick makers can continue to ply their trades, as the community will need those services as well.

The rest of us will ensure that sufficient resources are available for these people to contiunue their happy and prosperous lives...away from my kids.

 

[Al]

My solution would be to tie one convicted sex offender to 3 Lawyers and throw them into the sea.

Each foursome thus disposed of would make the world a better place.

 

[deepsquat]

I think if you talk to anyone involved with these men they will tell you that all the counselling in the world won't cure them ...they are just plain wired up different then we are ...they can't help them selves

 

[joee12]

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Originally posted by Al:
My solution would be to tie one convicted sex offender to 3 Lawyers and throw them into the sea.

Each foursome thus disposed of would make the world a better place.

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[drive it forever]

Make them stay in the general prison population, not protective custody. Prisoners HATE child molesters. His life expectancy wont be good in general population unless he has a guard to babysit him, not. If I was in prison for life with no parole, I would do the honer myself. What would I lose?

 

[Propflux01]

Manditory castration after conviction, REGARDLESS if jailtime is involved or not. I mean the whole sack and all.....

 

[Mr Nice]

Child predators / sex offenders will not get better, no matter how much psychiatric counselling they get....because that is the only thing on their mind. Statutory rape - How can a guy who is 20 years old, not know it is WRONG to have sex with a 14 year old girl ???

I agree 100% with Tim H, manditory castration. And those that are opposed to this because it is cruel ....I ask this question: If a dirtbag adult man sexually assulted your child, do you think he was being cruel to your child ?? If you say NO, then hire a sexual predator to baby sit your children.

[ March 20, 2005, 01:20 PM: Message edited by: LT4 Vette ]

 

[outrun]

Statutory Rape is to freaking complicated...there is too much grey area involved.

In such an issue I defer to the parents of both parties.

If the dad or mom of the "victim" wants the dude hunted down that is one thing.

If there is mutual consent by both parental parties that is another thing.

When you comment on grey area you judge too many people.

If that is your case my dad is a statory rapist and I am some illegtimate mistake.

Whatever the case my dad and mum are still together.

This eliminates any "victimist" arguments.

What is normal in America does not speak for the rest of the world.

Nor does it make the America or the rest of the world more civil than us.

 

[MarkC]

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Originally posted by Al:
My solution would be to tie one convicted sex offender to 3 Lawyers and throw them into the sea.

Each foursome thus disposed of would make the world a better place.

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Toss in a couple of judges, and I'll agree with you!

 

[Brett Miller]

If that man is not put to death our judicial system is in a sorry, sorry state of affairs. I can't imagine what the parents must be going thru. We should all say a prayer for them.

 

[sprintman]

Chemical castration?

 

[drive it forever]

To get rid of them, I think we should "look the other way". If a known sex offender is killed outside the courtroom by the father of the victim, would you find the killer of the molester guilty if you were a juror?

 

[outrun]

I agree with all here statory rape vs. some 40yo butchering a child are two different topics altogether.

On social revenge?

As much as I like the concept of vigilantes...its a slippery slope to **** once you allow justice killings.

Jihadists etc use similar arguments...again another post altogether.

Here is my dilemna like the FL pedo-murderer case.

It is bad enough these guys molest.

But why do they have to KILL the victim.

It makes absolutely zero sense.

Fine your a ******* for what ya did, but at least let the victim live.

I do not understand why ppl can do these montrous things.

Same thing for a robbery...take my **** money you ******* but dont kill anyone.

Errrrr....

 

[Gary Allan]

Child molesters are one thing ..but I have to agree that the "preditor list" is far too inclusive. There are many on their that took the plea bargain instead of facing a trial and gender bias in the court room. We had several situations here locally that come to mind. One was a boy and a girl who were both under the age of consent when they started having relations. They continued the relationship ..and he became an adult (18) and she was still below the age of consent (16 in PA). The parents (neither) wanted him prosecuted (the discovery came about because of another assault upon the girl) ..yet they hammered him anyway. He eventually was able to marry her after his "no contact" order expired. We also had a female worker at a juvinile detention center had sex with multiple boys ...they loved it ...she walked with a slap on the wrist (no jail time) ..if it was a male ..he would have been dragged through the court system and been leveraged against 15years for a 1 year plea. Old guy down the street had magazines in his garage...a youngster saw them ..next thing you know he's being prosecuted for luring kids with pornography.

Now I'm not in any way shape or form defending a child molester ..but when you see a child molested ..when does your pity and feelings of victimhood erode into rage and hatred? Sure it's when they commit an act ..but where was your concern for them (society's) from the day they were assaulted/molested ..until they too became the villains?? Shall we have a "victim list" too, making it easier to put them victims in jail later on??? (yes, this is going to inspire some reflex action here). Suppose your son was molested? Would you cull him preemptively since he's statistically likely to do it to someone else??

Not too many people have an answer for this. They tend to ignore this aspect of the equation.

..but yes, these molesters are damaged goods and require far more expense than we have resources for to contain them.