Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
Well, tons of business' are not buying diesel pickups. Probably 3 to 1 in favor of gas versions.
Given the hundreds of thousands of pickups sold in the US every year, that is is not only tons of pickups, that's a frigging horde of them.
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One of the reasons that GM hasn't fiddled with the 6.0L gas in the 2500/3500 pickups is because it is reliable and they don't want to diss their commercial buyers, which probably makes up 75% of their HD pickup sales. I cover around 2500 miles a week across several states. I make mental notes on pickups that I pass or pass me and have taken down numbers from time to time. Gas to Diesel is solidly on a 3-1 ratio, and that applies to both commercial and private users. Even the Farmer's Coop near me has drifted off of diesel in favor of gas for their HD pickups. And those puppies have to yank tank trailers of anhydrous ammonia to and from farm fields, sometimes doubles. Along with Totes of seed in the bed. They get worked. But they don't want to mess with the emissions stuff. Could be because these pickups are not highway use most of the time. In and out of fields, slow moving pulling double tank trailers of Anhydrous, etc. The emissions stuff likes it better when engines run at highways speed operating RPM's for periods of time.
And go to a truck stop and have a chat with the drivers and take your little survey on what they think about the emissions diesels. Just be prepared for some interesting curse words.
There's no doubt that the emissions garbage has been a pain in the rear. The effect on fuel economy is duly noted, as is the expense involved when those systems do need servicing. But that has hardly resulted in the complete disability of those trucks.
At the end of the day, the Duramax is still pumping out power the 6.0 will never dream of, and posting significantly better fuel consumption under heavy load.
You and I both know that reliability, fuel economy, and all else aside, most businesses are going to tick off the box for the cheaper engine no matter what. Enough so, that GM once had takers of the 4.3 V6 in a 3500 truck for a mere $500.00 discount.
Now bring it down to the half ton range. Are the people who lay out extra dough for the 6.2 over the 4.3 a bunch of idiots because they could buy so much fuel with the savings? Is it a ridiculous or fool hardy option since more than 75% of that market is going to be represented by other engine options? The 6.2 gets worse fuel economy and costs more money. What kind of joker is going to get that thing, right? Lots of businesses are doing fine with V6 power.
I understand that there's a lot of people trying to prove a point here, but the logic behind the point that's being pushed here is completely asinine.
