Just thought it'd be funny for people who claim 20w50 is thick to see this , 50w70! what would you even use this oil in? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/PENRITE-HD-OL...H-/180771756192
20w50 thick? i present to you Penrite's 50w70!
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I'm sure there's some vintage race motors that could take advantage of this.
It is made for a reason, after all.
It is made for a reason, after all.
I've used it before...used to use it in my MkII Escort which really burned through oil. One of my daughters used it and it was always low when I checked, with 25/70 it hardly burned any oil at all. I finally pulled it down and fitted rings - the engine was perfect inside, no wear anywhere, I reused the like new bearings, put in a new set of rings and then ran it on 15W40. Just like the thin oil brigade saying thin oil won't damage an engine, really super thick oil won't damage an engine either.
Yep Penrite make a lot of vintage and classic oils
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products-categ.php?id_categ=14
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products-categ.php?id_categ=14
For modern bikes and cars check out their HPR range
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products-categ.php?id_categ=1&id_brand=1
From 0W-30 to 40-70 (no W rating)
FordCapriDriver you would love the HPR 30 oil, it's a high quality mineral 20W-60 with 1570 ppm Zinc and a TBN of 9.7 It users very shear stable VII polymers too. It never sheared down and caused gear change problems in my wet clutch motorcycle, unlike Valvoline 20W-50 or GTX 20W-50 which didn't last long in my bike. It's also the only oil that didn't get consumed like water by my old Audi.
http://www.penriteoil.com.au/products-categ.php?id_categ=1&id_brand=1
From 0W-30 to 40-70 (no W rating)
FordCapriDriver you would love the HPR 30 oil, it's a high quality mineral 20W-60 with 1570 ppm Zinc and a TBN of 9.7 It users very shear stable VII polymers too. It never sheared down and caused gear change problems in my wet clutch motorcycle, unlike Valvoline 20W-50 or GTX 20W-50 which didn't last long in my bike. It's also the only oil that didn't get consumed like water by my old Audi.
Too bad i'm 17.000 Km from Oz lol
Originally Posted By: FordCapriDriver
Too bad i'm 17.000 Km from Oz lol
I'm sure it could be shipped, probably just cut it up into blocks like Jello.
Too bad i'm 17.000 Km from Oz lol
I'm sure it could be shipped, probably just cut it up into blocks like Jello.
Hahaha. i would love to try it out during summer though since here temps don't go lower than 30c during the day ( 86 F ) , and some of the hottest days the temps go over 40c ( 100 F ), and since it has 1570 ppm of zddp i wouldn't have to worry about it ever again, just switch back to 20w50 for the winter and that's it
To be used above what 5C, 10C? Not much thicker than the GTX 25w60 HM I used to run in my Golf 2.0 with 50k miles
Pontual, thanks for the picture. I wish we here in the states could have these options.
We have some exotics in heavy weight, but not available everywhere.
I see and use A/V oils, 25w-60 and aeroshell80/100 etc. The mentality here in the great USA is heavy oil is bad, but thin is better then canned beer or sliced bread.
I would like a few quarts for old gokart. The oil burn is so bad, you wonder how it runs or makes power.
Harvey
We have some exotics in heavy weight, but not available everywhere.
I see and use A/V oils, 25w-60 and aeroshell80/100 etc. The mentality here in the great USA is heavy oil is bad, but thin is better then canned beer or sliced bread.
I would like a few quarts for old gokart. The oil burn is so bad, you wonder how it runs or makes power.
Harvey
My first car was a 53 Ford I paid 5 bucks for. It had 90 weight gear oil in the sump of its worn out V8. I use 20w50 oil in the 528e because that is what the book says.
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Pontual, thanks for the picture. I wish we here in the states could have these options.
We have some exotics in heavy weight, but not available everywhere.
I see and use A/V oils, 25w-60 and aeroshell80/100 etc. The mentality here in the great USA is heavy oil is bad, but thin is better then canned beer or sliced bread.
I would like a few quarts for old gokart. The oil burn is so bad, you wonder how it runs or makes power.
Harvey
Youre welcome, Harvey!
Pontual, thanks for the picture. I wish we here in the states could have these options.
We have some exotics in heavy weight, but not available everywhere.
I see and use A/V oils, 25w-60 and aeroshell80/100 etc. The mentality here in the great USA is heavy oil is bad, but thin is better then canned beer or sliced bread.
I would like a few quarts for old gokart. The oil burn is so bad, you wonder how it runs or makes power.
Harvey
Youre welcome, Harvey!
I'd run that Pennrite oil in heart beat in the summer in the Harley
Dry sump, roller bearing motor - perfect
Dry sump, roller bearing motor - perfect
I've told this story before, and it's a personal experience, not a scientific experiment, so I'm not claiming it proves anything, but ....
Originally Posted By: SR5
When I ran thick oils traveling through the Australian outback, it was because it gave me a greater safety margin if things got a little too hot. This was in the old days, so the cars weren't as well cooled or designed as today. The dust and air temperature could heat up a car quick, especially on deep sandy roads . Also before cell phones etc., so less experimenting and more playing it safe. I also carried a Jerry of spare fuel and a second Jerry of water, plus food & tools & blanket etc.
Once I blew a radiator hose on an old dirt road with no traffic. I waited to night fall and the air temp cooled, then I drove until my car was about to overheat and I stopped to let it cool. I kept this going all night until I made it to my uncle's farm in the small hours of the morning. Gave him a bit of a shock as I left about 12 hours earlier and he wasn't expecting me back.
We fixed my car the next day, and it ran completely fine for years after that.
Oil was Penrite HPR 30, the heavy mineral, high ZDDP, 20W-60. It looked after me fine with a dry radiator and a long way from home.
Originally Posted By: SR5
When I ran thick oils traveling through the Australian outback, it was because it gave me a greater safety margin if things got a little too hot. This was in the old days, so the cars weren't as well cooled or designed as today. The dust and air temperature could heat up a car quick, especially on deep sandy roads . Also before cell phones etc., so less experimenting and more playing it safe. I also carried a Jerry of spare fuel and a second Jerry of water, plus food & tools & blanket etc.
Once I blew a radiator hose on an old dirt road with no traffic. I waited to night fall and the air temp cooled, then I drove until my car was about to overheat and I stopped to let it cool. I kept this going all night until I made it to my uncle's farm in the small hours of the morning. Gave him a bit of a shock as I left about 12 hours earlier and he wasn't expecting me back.
We fixed my car the next day, and it ran completely fine for years after that.
Oil was Penrite HPR 30, the heavy mineral, high ZDDP, 20W-60. It looked after me fine with a dry radiator and a long way from home.
Timely oil change today. A '91 Corolla with a 2E engine, owned by an elderly lady who has taken 3 years to do 10,000km. It's an oil burner, this stuff stays in longer...we give her the rest of the pack with 2 litres in it, and she runs out before the next oil change.
Nice work Silk.
The good thing about that oil is that if you accidentally knock the open container over, you have about 10 seconds to pick it up before any oil spills out.
The good thing about that oil is that if you accidentally knock the open container over, you have about 10 seconds to pick it up before any oil spills out.
It's summer here and 28c most days, the oil came out thin as like any hot oil drain, and the new oil was thinner than 15W40 in winter. Didn't look at all like a 70 coming out or going in.
Originally Posted By: Silk
It's summer here and 28c most days, the oil came out thin as like any hot oil drain, and the new oil was thinner than 15W40 in winter. Didn't look at all like a 70 coming out or going in.
Hi Silk,
Yeah I was just joking about knocking it over, I'm sure you know that.
Yeah it was 36 C (97 F) here yesterday, and that makes even the thick stuff pour easy.
It's summer here and 28c most days, the oil came out thin as like any hot oil drain, and the new oil was thinner than 15W40 in winter. Didn't look at all like a 70 coming out or going in.
Hi Silk,
Yeah I was just joking about knocking it over, I'm sure you know that.
Yeah it was 36 C (97 F) here yesterday, and that makes even the thick stuff pour easy.
I think people have seen that video of oil at very low temps - the dino pours like toffee, and the miracle synth is still normal....or they remember pouring STP into their engine years ago, and they expect 30W70 to be super thick...and it's not.
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