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https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016...-of-the-century

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Physicists have announced the discovery of gravitational waves, ripples in spacetime first anticipated by Albert Einstein a century ago.

“We have detected gravitational waves. We did it,” said David Reitze, executive director of the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (Ligo), at a press conference in Washington.

The announcement is the climax of a century of speculation, 50 years of trial and error, and 25 years perfecting a set of instruments so sensitive they could identify a distortion in spacetime a thousandth the diameter of one atomic nucleus across a 4km strip of laserbeam and mirror.

The phenomenon detected was the collision of two black holes. Using the world’s most sophisticated detector, the scientists listened for 20 thousandths of a second as the two giant black holes, one 35 times the mass of the sun, the other slightly smaller, circled around each other.
 
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Yes! saw a reference to this on Al Jazzera America this morning. Fascinating!
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
Makes my day when Physics (particularly cosmology) makes the headlines!


Yeah, but I got in trouble for waking my wife when the 6AM news came on...apparently "YES!!!" and a fistpump in bed wrt to physics on the news is a no-no (I'll just add it to the list)
 
I worked on an experiment at Argonne Nation Labs(USA) in the 1970s or early 80s, trying to discover Gravity waves. Nothing was found at that time. Ed
 
Do physicists really like it when Einstein is proven correct? Again? How did he do it without a supercomputer? Must have been magic chalk on that blackboard. Smart people are so inspiring.
 
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Do physicists really like it when Einstein is proven correct? Again? How did he do it without a supercomputer? Must have been magic chalk on that blackboard. Smart people are so inspiring.


It is amazing that so much of his theory work is being tested and proven so long after he has passed. I wonder if we will ever know the full extent of his contribution? What an incredible person.
 
Even better, the young patent clerk was a pure theorist.
He pulled this stuff out of the air based upon what he thought must be happening in the physical world based upon what had been observed.
There are bright folks and there are geniuses.
Most of those described as geniuses aren't really in that category.
I myself have a very hard time visualizing and then explaining the theory of relativity in all of its implications.
Just when I think I've really got it, I then realize that I don't.
 
The American Journal of Physics and their subsidiaries have been posting this with references:

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This year marks the 100th anniversary of the first publication of Albert Einstein's prediction of the existence of gravitational waves. With interest in this topic piqued by the centennial, we are sending this link to AJP and TPT articles on gravitational waves.

LIGO, a system of two identical detectors carefully constructed to detect incredibly tiny vibrations from passing gravitational waves, was conceived and built by researchers at MIT and the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), funded by the National Science Foundation, with significant contributions from other U.S. and international partners. The twin detectors are located in Livingston, Louisiana, and Hanford, Washington. Research and analysis of data from the detectors is carried out by a global group of scientists, including the LSC, which includes the GEO600 Collaboration, and the VIRGO Collaboration.
For additional background about the project, you may be interested in these websites:

LIGO Lab: https://ligo.caltech.edu/ (Observatories: Livingston | Hanford)
Advanced LIGO: https://www.advancedligo.mit.edu/
LIGO Scientific Collaboration: http://www.ligo.org/
LIGO Partner Experiments and Collaborations: http://www.ligo.org/partners.php

Sincerely,

Beth A. Cunningham
Executive Officer
 
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27
...Even better, the young patent clerk was a pure theorist.

He pulled this stuff out of the air based upon what he thought must be happening in the physical world based upon what had been observed.



Einstein did it all without computer simulations.

Einstein saw what Newton and others had accomplished in optics, gravitation, and motion and expanded upon those prior theories and validations.

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Do physicists really like it when Einstein is proven correct?


I think they do.
 
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In my view, one of Eeinstein's greatest accomplishment was an explanation for the photoelectric effect, which further led, eventually, to the enrichment of Quantum Mechanics. However, he developed the explanation upon the shoulders of Maxwell, Hertz, Plank, and others:

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Michael Fowler
University of Virginia

Hertz Finds Maxwell's Waves: and Something Else

The most dramatic prediction of Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, published in 1865, was the existence of electromagnetic waves moving at the speed of light, and the conclusion that light itself was just such a wave. This challenged experimentalists to generate and detect electromagnetic radiation using some form of electrical apparatus. The first clearly successful attempt was by Heinrich Hertz in 1886. He used a high voltage induction coil to cause a spark discharge between two pieces of brass, to quote him, "Imagine a cylindrical brass body, 3 cm in diameter and 26 cm long, interrupted midway along its length by a spark gap whose poles on either side are formed by spheres of 2 cm radius." The idea was that once a spark formed a conducting path between the two brass conductors, charge would rapidly oscillate back and forth, emitting electromagnetic radiation of a wavelength similar to the size of the conductors themselves.

To prove there really was radiation emitted, it had to be detected. Hertz used a piece of copper wire 1 mm thick bent into a circle of diameter 7.5 cms, with a small brass sphere on one end, and the other end of the wire was pointed, with the point near the sphere. He added a screw mechanism so that the point could be moved very close to the sphere in a controlled fashion. This "receiver" was designed so that current oscillating back and forth in the wire would have a natural period close to that of the "transmitter" described above. The presence of oscillating charge in the receiver would be signaled by a spark across the (tiny) gap between the point and the sphere (typically, this gap was hundredths of a millimeter). (It was suggested to Hertz that this spark gap could be replaced as a detector by a suitably prepared frog's leg, but that apparently didn't work.)

The experiment was very successful - Hertz was able to detect the radiation up to fifty feet away, and in a series of ingenious experiments established that the radiation was reflected and refracted as expected, and that it was polarized. The main problem - the limiting factor in detection -- was being able to see the tiny spark in the receiver. In trying to improve the spark's visibility, he came upon something very mysterious. To quote from Hertz again (he called the transmitter spark A, the receiver B): "I occasionally enclosed the spark B in a dark case so as to more easily make the observations; and in so doing I observed that the maximum spark-length became decidedly smaller in the case than it was before. On removing in succession the various parts of the case, it was seen that the only portion of it which exercised this prejudicial effect was that which screened the spark B from the spark A. The partition on that side exhibited this effect, not only when it was in the immediate neighbourhood of the spark B, but also when it was interposed at greater distances from B between A and B. A phenomenon so remarkable called for closer investigation."

Hertz then embarked on a very thorough investigation. He found that the small receiver spark was more vigorous if it was exposed to ultraviolet light from the transmitter spark. It took a long time to figure this out - he first checked for some kind of electromagnetic effect, but found a sheet of glass effectively shielded the spark. He then found a slab of quartz did not shield the spark, whereupon he used a quartz prism to break up the light from the big spark into its components, and discovered that the wavelength which made the little spark more powerful was beyond the visible, in the ultraviolet.

In 1887, Hertz concluded what must have been months of investigation: "… I confine myself at present to communicating the results obtained, without attempting any theory respecting the manner in which the observed phenomena are brought about."

Hallwachs' Simpler Approach
The next year, 1888, another German physicist, Wilhelm Hallwachs, in Dresden, wrote:

"In a recent publication Hertz has described investigations on the dependence of the maximum length of an induction spark on the radiation received by it from another induction spark. He proved that the phenomenon observed is an action of the ultraviolet light. No further light on the nature of the phenomenon could be obtained, because of the complicated conditions of the research in which it appeared. I have endeavored to obtain related phenomena which would occur under simpler conditions, in order to make the explanation of the phenomena easier. Success was obtained by investigating the action of the electric light on electrically charged bodies."
He then describes his very simple experiment: a clean circular plate of zinc was mounted on an insulating stand and attached by a wire to a gold leaf electroscope, which was then charged negatively. The electroscope lost its charge very slowly. However, if the zinc plate was exposed to ultraviolet light from an arc lamp, or from burning magnesium, charge leaked away quickly. If the plate was positively charged, there was no fast charge leakage. (We showed this as a lecture demo, using a UV lamp as source.)...


J.J. Thomson Identifies the Particles
In fact, the situation remained unclear until 1899, when Thomson established that the ultraviolet light caused electrons to be emitted, the same particles found in cathode rays. His method was to enclose the metallic surface to be exposed to radiation in a vacuum tube, in other words to make it the cathode in a cathode ray tube. The new feature was that electrons were to be ejected from the cathode by the radiation, rather than by the strong electric field used previously.

By this time, there was a plausible picture of what was going on. Atoms in the cathode contained electrons, which were shaken and caused to vibrate by the oscillating electric field of the incident radiation. Eventually some of them would be shaken loose, and would be ejected from the cathode. It is worthwhile considering carefully how the number and speed of electrons emitted would be expected to vary with the intensity and color of the incident radiation. Increasing the intensity of radiation would shake the electrons more violently, so one would expect more to be emitted, and they would shoot out at greater speed, on average. Increasing the frequency of the radiation would shake the electrons faster, so might cause the electrons to come out faster. For very dim light, it would take some time for an electron to work up to a sufficient amplitude of vibration to shake loose.

Lenard Finds Some Surprises
In 1902, Lenard studied how the energy of the emitted photoelectrons varied with the intensity of the light. He used a carbon arc light, and could increase the intensity a thousand-fold. The ejected electrons hit another metal plate, the collector, which was connected to the cathode by a wire with a sensitive ammeter, to measure the current produced by the illumination. To measure the energy of the ejected electrons, Lenard charged the collector plate negatively, to repel the electrons coming towards it. Thus, only electrons ejected with enough kinetic energy to get up this potential hill would contribute to the current. Lenard discovered that there was a well defined minimum voltage that stopped any electrons getting through, we'll call it Vstop. To his surprise, he found that Vstop did not depend at all on the intensity of the light! Doubling the light intensity doubled the number of electrons emitted, but did not affect the energies of the emitted electrons. The more powerful oscillating field ejected more electrons, but the maximum individual energy of the ejected electrons was the same as for the weaker field.

But Lenard did something else. With his very powerful arc lamp, there was sufficient intensity to separate out the colors and check the photoelectric effect using light of different colors. He found that the maximum energy of the ejected electrons did depend on the color --- the shorter wavelength, higher frequency light caused electrons to be ejected with more energy. This was, however, a fairly qualitative conclusion --- the energy measurements were not very reproducible, because they were extremely sensitive to the condition of the surface, in particular its state of partial oxidation. In the best vacua available at that time, significant oxidation of a fresh surface took place in tens of minutes. (The details of the surface are crucial because the fastest electrons emitted are those from right at the surface, and their binding to the solid depends strongly on the nature of the surface --- is it pure metal or a mixture of metal and oxygen atoms?)...


Einstein Suggests an Explanation
In 1905 Einstein gave a very simple interpretation of Lenard's results. He just assumed that the incoming radiation should be thought of as quanta of frequency hf, with f the frequency. In photoemission, one such quantum is absorbed by one electron. If the electron is some distance into the material of the cathode, some energy will be lost as it moves towards the surface. There will always be some electrostatic cost as the electron leaves the surface, this is usually called the work function, W. The most energetic electrons emitted will be those very close to the surface, and they will leave the cathode with kinetic energy
E = hf - W.

On cranking up the negative voltage on the collector plate until the current just stops, that is, to Vstop, the highest kinetic energy electrons must have had energy eVstop on leaving the cathode. Thus,
eVstop = hf - W.

Thus Einstein's theory makes a very definite quantitative prediction: if the frequency of the incident light is varied, and Vstop plotted as a function of frequency, the slope of the line should be h/e.

It is also clear that there is a minimum light frequency for a given metal, that for which the quantum of energy is equal to the work function. Light below that frequency , no matter how bright, will not cause photoemission.

Millikan's Attempts to Disprove Einstein's Theory
If we accept Einstein's theory, then, this is a completely different way to measure Planck's constant. The American experimental physicist Robert Millikan, who did not accept Einstein's theory, which he saw as an attack on the wave theory of light, worked for ten years, until 1916, on the photoelectric effect. He even devised techniques for scraping clean the metal surfaces inside the vacuum tube. For all his efforts he found disappointing results: he confirmed Einstein's theory, measuring Planck's constant to within 0.5% by this method. One consolation was that he did get a Nobel prize for this series of experiments.

References

'Subtle is the Lord...' The Science and Life of Albert Einstein, Abraham Pais, Oxford 1982.

Inward Bound, Abraham Pais, Oxford, 1986

The Project Physics Course, Text, Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 1970

Life of Lenard

Life of Millikan



http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/252/photoelectric_effect.html
 
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In fact, Einstein was awarded the Nobel Prize for his work on the photoelectric effect, not, as is popularly thought, Relativity.

I was at the Star Trek experience at the Las Vegas Hilton a few years back, and as I walked up through the exhibit, looking at the timeline (which was about warp drive, first contact, and other milestones in the Star Trek universe), I noticed that it started with a milestone for Einstein's Nobel Prize in Relativity (sic) that led to our understanding of space-time.

Well, his work, yes, but his Nobel Prize wasn't for Relativity...

I couldn't have been the only one to walk by this glaring error in the history of science, cringing at the mistake...
 
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Been pondering this versus the Michelson Morley experiment that "disproved" the eather.

Same kit, same (sort of) premise, but disecernible due to the pulse like nature of the wave expanding the universe in the direction of the wave's travel.
 
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
In my view, one of Eeinstein's greatest accomplishment was an explanation for the photoelectric effect, which further led, eventually, to the enrichment of Quantum Mechanics. However, he developed the explanation upon the shoulders of Maxwell, Hertz, Plank, and others:

Everything that Einstein accomplished before 1915 would have been discovered a few years after 1905. The Photoelectric effect might have taken longer. Its hard to say if anyone would have figured out the General Theory for decades. Einstein did build on the work of others. He did not work in a vacuum. He was able to take advantage of experiments going on at the time.

But almost anyone will say that the General Theory is his greatest contribution. Essentially : "Mass tells space how to curve Space tells mass how to move" The math is incredible.
 
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The detection system sounds pretty subtle.

Maybe they observed the phenomenon, maybe not.

I hate to be the spoiled sport, but, really, what benefit are we getting from this?

We're not all doomed, are we?
 
Originally Posted By: Win
The detection system sounds pretty subtle.

Maybe they observed the phenomenon, maybe not.

I hate to be the spoiled sport, but, really, what benefit are we getting from this?


Basic understanding of quantum theory, Gravity,dark energy, and dark matter.
There is yet no real merging of gravity which is the study of the very big and quantum mechanics which is the understanding of the very small (basically) and of course there is no understanding of exactly what dark energy and dark matter is.

They know that dark energy is 68% of the universe Dark Energy is 27%, and regular matter 5%. This all explains why universe is expanding and they know Dark matter is affected by gravity. All this is known by the General theory which has led to transistors, lasers, led's, ability of earth's GPS satellites to keep time (gravity and speed affect time). Long and short of it more advanced technology reqires deeper insights to the nature ofwhat gravity really is and how it reacts with things.
 
I have a problem with mathematicians having the reigns in this area. The universe is messy. Nothing follows math cleanly. I don't believe the universe started out as infinitely small with infinite mass. I don't believe in infinity. I'm not sure I believe in zero either. Still thinking about that.


I don't care for the hand waving that goes on when the math breaks down.
 
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