RazorsEdge,
you gave me the impetus to give google another crack at the secret test procedure that outshines the ASTM...
Originally Posted By: 540 Rat
Some folks complained that this “Lab” testing was basically worthless because the testing wasn’t performed in an actual running engine. The uninformed should be aware that “Lab” testing is the gold standard for countless companies in many, many industries. It shortens development time, and allows them to design and build a quality product in a timely manner. And of course time is money, in industry. In fact, many companies simply could not compete or even exist without lab testing.
Here’s one example. You simply cannot test a new jet aircraft in actual flight, to see at what point its wings will break off. So, you MUST perform static “Lab” testing on the ground, to determine that information.
It is similar with this oil testing, in that not all testing is practical in a running engine, even though in a perfect world that would be ideal. Try testing 44 different oils in an engine, with the "exact same" conditions every time, and doing all that in a timely manner. That simply would NOT be possible. So, that’s were oil “LAB” testing comes in. And wouldn't you rather select an oil that "Lab” tests well, rather than one that does not? Or even worse, have no real idea what oil to select, and simply have to go by your gut feeling, or have to go by advertising hype, or have to pick the prettiest bottle, or to have to simply guess?
I choose to use technical data for determining which oil to select for myself. So, I invested a lot of time and money to perform motor oil “Lab” torture testing, at a representative oil temperature, in order to generate that data. Because you simply cannot find this data anywhere else.
The tester's psi numbers are generated from a non-rotating test specimen simply being “gradually” pressed down onto a spinning ring, that's it. And that gradual application of the load, allows time for the local friction point to heat up to so that the heat activated zinc can become effective. No engine parts are designed that way. Testers and engines are NOT the same, and are NOT intended to be the same. Lab testing speeds up the evaluation process so that you don't have to wait 100,000 miles to see what happened.
So it's not 3 ball, four ball, two ball with electric currents...it's the Timken test machine...aka the 1 armed bandit.
LOLercoasters...
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30596
Garak, you'd like that thread.
you gave me the impetus to give google another crack at the secret test procedure that outshines the ASTM...
Originally Posted By: 540 Rat
Some folks complained that this “Lab” testing was basically worthless because the testing wasn’t performed in an actual running engine. The uninformed should be aware that “Lab” testing is the gold standard for countless companies in many, many industries. It shortens development time, and allows them to design and build a quality product in a timely manner. And of course time is money, in industry. In fact, many companies simply could not compete or even exist without lab testing.
Here’s one example. You simply cannot test a new jet aircraft in actual flight, to see at what point its wings will break off. So, you MUST perform static “Lab” testing on the ground, to determine that information.
It is similar with this oil testing, in that not all testing is practical in a running engine, even though in a perfect world that would be ideal. Try testing 44 different oils in an engine, with the "exact same" conditions every time, and doing all that in a timely manner. That simply would NOT be possible. So, that’s were oil “LAB” testing comes in. And wouldn't you rather select an oil that "Lab” tests well, rather than one that does not? Or even worse, have no real idea what oil to select, and simply have to go by your gut feeling, or have to go by advertising hype, or have to pick the prettiest bottle, or to have to simply guess?
I choose to use technical data for determining which oil to select for myself. So, I invested a lot of time and money to perform motor oil “Lab” torture testing, at a representative oil temperature, in order to generate that data. Because you simply cannot find this data anywhere else.
The tester's psi numbers are generated from a non-rotating test specimen simply being “gradually” pressed down onto a spinning ring, that's it. And that gradual application of the load, allows time for the local friction point to heat up to so that the heat activated zinc can become effective. No engine parts are designed that way. Testers and engines are NOT the same, and are NOT intended to be the same. Lab testing speeds up the evaluation process so that you don't have to wait 100,000 miles to see what happened.
So it's not 3 ball, four ball, two ball with electric currents...it's the Timken test machine...aka the 1 armed bandit.
LOLercoasters...
http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30596
Garak, you'd like that thread.