Originally Posted By: bvance554
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: Wheel
Is the loss of mass from it being the last round the issue ? Can you load a clip of one round and the rest empties and see what happens ? I seem to recall my Dad having an issue with an old Browning recoil shotgun that acted up with light loads and an empty mag.
The old A5 type shottys use a long recoil and friction ring setup that is very ammo sensitive. You actually have to disassemble the gun and set up the friction rings different for light or heavy loads (and if shooting very light loads, even lube it more). No production pistol ever made works on this system, so mass has nothing to do with it.
Mass can have have a lot to do with it. Just because the pistol doesn't use the same mechanism as the shotgun in his example does not mean mass cannot play a part in the ejection of the cartridge in the OP's pistol. He says he isn't 'limp wristing' it, but that could be his subjective opinion. The mass of the pistol and the shooter's action could very well be the cause. Especially since it happens on the last round of each magazine.
I was taking into account there is no limp wristing. And the mass of the pistol is still the same even if you do limp wrist it. You are merely absorbing the inertia of the recoil impulse. About the only other way mass comes into play is if you load an ultra light bullet and a light powder charge that will not overcome the resistance of the slide and springs.
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: Wheel
Is the loss of mass from it being the last round the issue ? Can you load a clip of one round and the rest empties and see what happens ? I seem to recall my Dad having an issue with an old Browning recoil shotgun that acted up with light loads and an empty mag.
The old A5 type shottys use a long recoil and friction ring setup that is very ammo sensitive. You actually have to disassemble the gun and set up the friction rings different for light or heavy loads (and if shooting very light loads, even lube it more). No production pistol ever made works on this system, so mass has nothing to do with it.
Mass can have have a lot to do with it. Just because the pistol doesn't use the same mechanism as the shotgun in his example does not mean mass cannot play a part in the ejection of the cartridge in the OP's pistol. He says he isn't 'limp wristing' it, but that could be his subjective opinion. The mass of the pistol and the shooter's action could very well be the cause. Especially since it happens on the last round of each magazine.
I was taking into account there is no limp wristing. And the mass of the pistol is still the same even if you do limp wrist it. You are merely absorbing the inertia of the recoil impulse. About the only other way mass comes into play is if you load an ultra light bullet and a light powder charge that will not overcome the resistance of the slide and springs.
