Amsoil SSO 0W-30, 1993 Civic, 3,007 miles

Miles on car-410,295
Miles on oil-7,972
Amsoil AZO 0W-30
Amsoil EaO36 oil filter
Twin Filtermag CT3.2
Golden Eagle Magnetic drain plug
5ozs Liquimoly
16 ozs makeup oil added



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Aluminum------------3------------------4 universal average

Chromium------------1------------------1

Iron----------------23-----------------9

Copper--------------4------------------3

Lead----------------2------------------2

Tin-----------------0------------------1

Molybdenum----------307----------------79

Nickel--------------2------------------0

Manganese-----------0------------------0

Silver--------------0------------------0

Titanium------------0------------------0

Potassium-----------9------------------3

Boron---------------73-----------------48

Silicon-------------17-----------------11

Sodium--------------11-----------------45

Calcium-------------3718---------------2161

Magnesium-----------17-----------------127

Phosphorus----------719----------------708

Zinc----------------838----------------831

Barium--------------0------------------0





SuS Viscosity @ 210 f-----59.9----------57-67 should be

cSt Viscosity @ 100 c-----10.19---------9.4-12.4

Flashpoint f--------------360----------->386

Fuel%---------------------1.3-----------
Antifreeze %--------------0-------------?

Water %-------------------0-------------0

Insolubles%---------------.4------------
TBN-----------------------4.1------------>1.0



Particle count for ISO Code- 16/15/13



>=2 microns----1,085

>=5------------402

>=10-----------111

>=15-----------43

>=25-----------10

>=50-----------1

>=100----------0




Comments were from Blackstone;

You ran longer on the oil this time, but metals generally improved, and it's always nice to see lower metals after more miles on the oil. Aluminum is back down in the normal range, and iron is only slightly high now on a per-mile basis, Silicon also improved, falling down into the average range this time around. Fuel was still present at 1.3%, but that's not a problem level. The TBN is in good shape at 4.1, showing plenty of active additive remaining. Particle count stayed pretty steady at 16/15/13--clean for engine oil. No new issues here! Overall, it's looking better.
 
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The original oil change at 241,000 miles was for 3,007 miles. I am posting a continuing history of my car. The last oil change was at close to 8,000 miles.
 
Some data is missing from the last oil change, here it is;

SuS Viscosity @ 210 F--------------59.9-------------57-67 (SHOULD BE)
cSt Viscosity @ 100 C--------------10.19------------9.4-12.4
Flashpoint in F---------------------360-------------->385
Fuel %------------------------------1.3-------------- Antifreeze %------------------------0----------------0
Water %-----------------------------0---------------- Insolubles %------------------------0.4-------------- TBN---------------------------------4.1-------------->1.0


Particle counts for ISO oil cleanliness code 16/15/13

>=2microns------1,085 particles
>=5---------------402
>=10--------------111
>=15--------------43
>=25--------------10
>=50--------------1
>=100-------------0


Thank you Bill for cleaning up my mess
 
Originally Posted By: harry j
Some data is missing from the last oil change, here it is;
SuS Viscosity @ 210 F--------------59.9-------------57-67 (SHOULD BE)
cSt Viscosity @ 100 C--------------10.19------------9.4-12.4
Flashpoint in F---------------------360-------------->385
Fuel %------------------------------1.3-------------- Antifreeze %------------------------0----------------0
Water %-----------------------------0---------------- Insolubles %------------------------0.4-------------- TBN---------------------------------4.1-------------->1.0

Particle counts for ISO oil cleanliness code 16/15/13

>=2microns------1,085 particles
>=5---------------402
>=10--------------111
>=15--------------43
>=25--------------10
>=50--------------1
>=100-------------0

Thank you Bill for cleaning up my mess
Thank you for posting continuously here... very useful to see these UOA's. What would have happened if you used the 0w-20 just like so many other Civic R18 owners?
Could it have lasted 8000 miles or more ?
 
I feel that 0W-20 is too thin for an engine with over 400,000 miles on it. I just started to extend my oil change intervals. I was dealing with some engine issues that seem to be corrected now.
 
Originally Posted By: harry j
itslimjim, I'm sorry to hear about your Civic being stolen.


Thanks. In hindsight, I should've put an alarm on it after I got it re-painted as a 5 year anniversary (it was my wife's first car), but before that didn't think anyone would care for a 23 year old car and sort of didn't know we wanted to keep it before fixing the headgasket 2 years ago. I was a bit naive. Moved into a new area where there is more crime apparently and yep, someone wanted it.

It is great to see the progress of your thread here. I hope this engine can somehow make it to the 500k mark. That'd be an achievement, but 400k as a milestone is awesome in of itself. Nice dedication and always like reading the updates!
thumbsup2.gif
 
Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Originally Posted By: harry j
itslimjim, I'm sorry to hear about your Civic being stolen.
Thanks. In hindsight, I should've put an alarm on it after I got it re-painted as a 5 year anniversary (it was my wife's first car),

It is great to see the progress of your thread here. I hope this engine can somehow make it to the 500k mark. That'd be an achievement, but 400k as a milestone is awesome in of itself. Nice dedication and always like reading the updates!
thumbsup2.gif

Condolences as well for your loss , ltslimjim , sad news indeed to lose a 23 year old well kept freshly painted civic!
What is your current honda using, 0w-30 or other ?
 
Originally Posted By: fpracha
Originally Posted By: ltslimjim
Originally Posted By: harry j
itslimjim, I'm sorry to hear about your Civic being stolen.
Thanks. In hindsight, I should've put an alarm on it after I got it re-painted as a 5 year anniversary (it was my wife's first car),

It is great to see the progress of your thread here. I hope this engine can somehow make it to the 500k mark. That'd be an achievement, but 400k as a milestone is awesome in of itself. Nice dedication and always like reading the updates!
thumbsup2.gif

Condolences as well for your loss , ltslimjim , sad news indeed to lose a 23 year old well kept freshly painted civic!
What is your current honda using, 0w-30 or other ?


Not to thread-hijack but I'm using 0w-20 in the new to me Fit.
smile.gif
 
Originally Posted By: FZ1
No,boys. When You get up to 305,000 miles on Your Civic,then you can critique Harry's choice of oils.
YES , Absolutely agree with this important comment and since now this great 1993 Civic is at 400k+ miles !
 
Originally Posted By: harry j
I feel that 0W-20 is too thin for an engine with over 400,000 miles on it. I just started to extend my oil change intervals. I was dealing with some engine issues that seem to be corrected now.
I hear you, agree!

Originally Posted By: harry j
The original oil change at 241,000 miles was for 3,007 miles. I am posting a continuing history of my car. The last oil change was at close to 8,000 miles.

Ok I see this now... did your MPG take a hit when you extended OCI from 3000mi to 5000mi and then to 8000mi ?
 
fpracha, There is no noticeable MPG difference due to extending the OCI. I keep a detailed gas book and would notice any changes.
 
Miles on car; 418,413
Miles on oil- 8,113
Amsoil AZO 0W-30
Amsoil EAO36 oil filter
Twin Filtermag CT3.2 magnetic oil filters
Golden Eagle magnetic drain plug
Added 12 ozs makeup oil
5ozs Liquimoly

Blackstone Labs; We recently switched particle counters and our new one can no longer read dark oils like engine oil, so you won't be charged for that test.Fortunately, we can still run insolubles and they were fine, so we have no reason to suspect the solids in your oil were any worse than what they had been. Iron was about the same as what we had been seeing too, and it's been steady enough that we decided to unhighlight it. Fuel dilution is still on our watch list, but we doubt 1.0% is a problem. This oil still had lots of active additive left (see TBN). Great report overall.

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Aluminum---------------3---------------------4 universal average

Chromium---------------1---------------------1 (3,500 mile)

Iron-------------------24--------------------9

Copper-----------------4---------------------3

Lead-------------------2---------------------2

Tin--------------------1---------------------1

Molybdenum-------------272-------------------80

Nickel-----------------1---------------------0

Manganese--------------0---------------------0

Silver-----------------0---------------------0

Titanium---------------0---------------------0

Potassium--------------9---------------------3

Boron------------------42--------------------48

Silicon----------------17--------------------11

Sodium-----------------12--------------------44

Calcium----------------3782------------------2153

Magnesium--------------17--------------------134

Phosphorus-------------714-------------------711

Zinc-------------------841-------------------835

Barium-----------------0---------------------0



SUS Viscosity @210 F---------64.5------------57-67 should be

cST Viscosity @100 C---------11.48-----------9.4-12.4

Flashpoint in F--------------365------------->385

Fuel %-----------------------1.0------------
Antifreeze %-----------------0---------------0

Water %----------------------0--------------
Insolubles %-----------------0.4------------
TBN--------------------------2.7------------>1.0





ISO Particle counts not done

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Iron is high because you're still breakin' it in. hee-hee
You're using the best oil, great filter, and with extra moly added, and still it doesn't look great. I don't understand why.
 
lubricatosaurus, The universal average is based on 3,500 miles, I went over 8,000 miles on the latest UOA. I attribute the elevated iron level to the new cylinder head installed a short time ago. I was expecting the iron level to drop by now.
 
Originally Posted By: lubricatosaurus
You're using the best oil, great filter, and with extra moly added, and still it doesn't look great. I don't understand why.


It's not the lube then.
 
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