Oil's Effects on Direct Inj Intake Valve Deposits?

[wemay]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: Uber_Archetype
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
The MILLIONS (much more cars than people) of cars that run every day without them proves far more than the hearsay evidence on the Web...

Yeah - they run great - right up until the intake chokes off with carbon and sludge buildup from EGR and CCV deposit buildup. We never hear about the vast majority, MILLIONS (should've used BILLIONS - it's a more impressive number you could pull from your nether region) because they are either designed well enough to avoid it or don't get run long enough to fail, for whatever reason.

Got any more hearsay for us Steveie?


Hey, you are the one with the drum to beat. Put a can on your ride and leave the rest of us out of it. Your nonsense and attempt to get personal just shows how weak your argument is. BTW, there are more than 250 million cars in the US according to registrations. If you were correct the highways would be littered with failed cars, all choked up with carbon. 1% of that number would be a quarter million cars!

All you got is a couple of noisy friends who squeal about it on the internet. Mazda, Audi, and Mini owners have all stated that catch cans did nothing for valve deposits. Nothing but Internet Amplification by folks too wrapped up in the battle to see there is no war.

I'm sure you have some more baloney. Let's hear it! And at least produce those citations you spoke of earlier, or did you run out of things to pull from your nether regions?


Again... Agreed!

No one is saying NO vehicles will succumb to IVD, but the fear mongering is excessive.

 

[Uber_Archetype]

Originally Posted By: wemay
No one is saying NO vehicles will succumb to IVD, but the fear mongering is excessive.

Nobody is "fear mongering." But you need to keep things in perspective. Somebody (?) in this thread has been making statements to the effect that catch cans are a waste of time and money, generally speaking. Generalizations don't cut it, and this line of thinking represents false statements. Depends on whether the car needs one or not.

Of course those with perspectives extending all the way to the end of their noses assume that because their car "seems" OK after x number of miles, catch cans must be a waste of time and money for just about any car, with few exceptions. Projecting your personal .0000001% of the sample data onto MILLIONS of vehicles in the population as a general rule is just about as disingenuous as you can get. Again - false statement, or fallacious line of thinking.

Ignore the issue at your peril. Out of warranty intake cleaning runs around $1,800 at BMW dealers, and few IF ANY indy shops are qualified and have the necessary specialized tools to do it.

 

[wemay]

VW/Audi and BMW have been mentioned as the ones with the most issues, not withstanding their requirements for the stoutest of oils (off topic). But overall, as an industry, the IVD issues just have not materialized except for the forum communities where we know internet amplification is rampant. But, to your point Uber_Archetype, we'll see.

 

[CT8]

the problem is that we think we know instead of really knowing that is the difference. Some think they know and some really know. We find out who really knows eventually.