Not on nightly news, why?

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Posted it time and time again, 10,000 Aussies die due to "properly applied" medicine and procedures, ten times the road toll, and umpteen times the gun toll, but they get a free pass.

Not only that, they got tort reform, and failed to pass a cent on.

Not only that, but they get 3x the inflation rate on insurance premium hikes.
 
Obamacare already fixed everything to do with healthcare. we have our government's word on that.

Hospital-acquired infections are so common they have a special name, nosocomial infections.

Violence sells air time much better, gets politicians in front of the microphones. It's much more interesting to the public than puss.

Nosocomial infections, mistakes in healthcare and surgery and prescription drugs kill more people than death by guns here in the US and the war in Afghanistan combined but the media gets to pick what you hear. Since there's big profits in healthcare and drugs we get the violence and the politicians get the microphone.
 
And sorry, no-one sells drugs like they do in the US.

By that, I mean legal drugs, advertised on main stream media, in prime time.

(here they hide brand names in the eye charts for subliminal effect)
 
Here in the US healthcare is, have a problem, take this pill. If that shuts the patient up then there's no need to find the underlying problem or get the patient involved. Pain pills are especially good for keeping the cost of a diagnosis down along with the guarantee that the patient will return. It's cash flow that makes the system run. Diagnosis and actual treatment would just get in the way of a smooth running system.

Usual and customary standards of care here in the US do not include statement like get off your fat (insert word) and lose 50 pounds. Stop smoking or you'll die. Quit with the sugar you fat tub of lard. Have you ever taken the stairs and passed on the elevator? If you drink alcohol and get behind he wheel I hope you go straight to h e l l.
 
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/health/hospital-acquired-infections/index.htm I thought gun control was a top priority, but what about hospitals....?


To coin Al's phrase, this is probably the most "inconvenient truth" that exists today.

A few years ago I posted a detailed, thorough run-down of how iatrogenisis causes approximately 9000x more accidental deaths than guns. (Yes, that is nine-thousand times; not a typo). Even if you include murder with guns, the medical profession still kills WAY, WAY more people than guns ever will in the US. Far more. There is ZERO DEBATE if you truly understand the actual data. And I did not "skew" my data; I used the following credible sources:
FBI crime data
BLS work data
DOJ crime data
CDC medial compilation data
AMA journal data
etc.

Your question is answered thus:
It is a combination of ignorance and arrogance; most people don't know, and those that do hide it due to "convictions" that push them, shall we say, in directional dogma.
 
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Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Obamacare already fixed everything to do with healthcare. we have our government's word on that.


How Obamacare is being blamed for everything health-care is farcical.
 
It seems like "superbugs" come up in the news rotation occasionally. Also, there has been recent coverage of a Legionnaire's outbreak linked to a NY hospital.

I remember this story about dirty instruments, but I thought it was more recent. Maybe there was a follow-up or another like it. Two mainstream outlets from a quick Google search:

http://www.today.com/health/today-investigates-dirty-surgical-instruments-problem-or-1C9382187

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/02/22...tients-at-risk/

None of the examples above threaten the toenail fungus, incontinence and male virility pills peddled during the evening news, so maybe that's how they slipped through.
 
Why isnt it on the nightly news?

It has nothing to do with race or cop bashing?
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I have health insurance through my employer like most people, but the ACA is NOT a disaster, it has saved many lives and helped millions not suffer who would have without it. Gun violence is not accidental. There are all kinds of not on purpose deaths from many causes. They do talk about all of it or you wouldn't know about it. Sorry if gun violence, on purpose killing by a deranged individual, is in the news for you to hear about. Turn it off if you don't want to hear it.
 
The Mainstream media is the government/corporate propaganda machine whose main mission is to keep its viewers stupid.
 
Originally Posted By: goodtimes
I have health insurance through my employer like most people, but the ACA is NOT a disaster, it has saved many lives and helped millions not suffer who would have without it. Gun violence is not accidental. There are all kinds of not on purpose deaths from many causes. They do talk about all of it or you wouldn't know about it. Sorry if gun violence, on purpose killing by a deranged individual, is in the news for you to hear about. Turn it off if you don't want to hear it.


The point isn't that we want to ignore anything. I think we can all agree that we all want to live to a ripe old age and die of natural causes.

Unfortunately, some people die from gun violence. On the news, we hear, "Why can't something be done about this?" There are a million moms against gun violence. Etc.

More people die from hospital acquired infections than gun violence. About 3 times more.

When you look at facts, it makes more sense to go after preventing hospital acquired infections with more gusto than going after guns.
 
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/health/hospital-acquired-infections/index.htm I thought gun control was a top priority, but what about hospitals....?


To coin Al's phrase, this is probably the most "inconvenient truth" that exists today.

A few years ago I posted a detailed, thorough run-down of how iatrogenisis causes approximately 9000x more accidental deaths than guns. (Yes, that is nine-thousand times; not a typo). Even if you include murder with guns, the medical profession still kills WAY, WAY more people than guns ever will in the US. Far more. There is ZERO DEBATE if you truly understand the actual data. And I did not "skew" my data; I used the following credible sources:
FBI crime data
BLS work data
DOJ crime data
CDC medial compilation data
AMA journal data
etc.

Your question is answered thus:
It is a combination of ignorance and arrogance; most people don't know, and those that do hide it due to "convictions" that push them, shall we say, in directional dogma.


Exactly, it is acceptable for a few plane load of people to die every so many weeks due to adverse medication interaction. Some of them are due to Doctors' handwriting being illegible. Some due to negligence. But the mantra of the medical industry to defend their wrong doings.
As they say doctor's get to bury their mistakes.
Think, what kinda outrage we would have if pedophiles were judged by pedophiles. Well that happens in the medical industry.
Remember the Michael Jackson doctor who prescribed him meds that is solely used in surgery? well the physician board did not take his lic. away. He lost it cuz he was convicted of the felony.
 
The 'Hands Up, Don't Shoot' ..... and the.... 'No Justice, No Peace' folks get a lot more TV time than hospitals / infections while hospitalized.

I travel to many hospitals and the only advice is to stay the [censored] out of any hospital. Many incompetent employees that only care about a paycheck. From ER , ICU, CVICU, Surgery Dept.... etc
 
'Cept the government one world order people want the people disarmed so as to form a socialist utopia.
 
Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: OneEyeJack
Obamacare already fixed everything to do with healthcare. we have our government's word on that.


How Obamacare is being blamed for everything health-care is farcical.


If you believe that you have not been to a hospital and met people with real health problems before and after Obamacare. Just keep up with the media and you'll be okay until you get hurt or sick. Then maybe your eyes will be opened.
 
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
Originally Posted By: CourierDriver
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/health/hospital-acquired-infections/index.htm I thought gun control was a top priority, but what about hospitals....?


To coin Al's phrase, this is probably the most "inconvenient truth" that exists today.

A few years ago I posted a detailed, thorough run-down of how iatrogenisis causes approximately 9000x more accidental deaths than guns. (Yes, that is nine-thousand times; not a typo). Even if you include murder with guns, the medical profession still kills WAY, WAY more people than guns ever will in the US. Far more. There is ZERO DEBATE if you truly understand the actual data. And I did not "skew" my data; I used the following credible sources:
FBI crime data
BLS work data
DOJ crime data
CDC medial compilation data
AMA journal data
etc.

Your question is answered thus:
It is a combination of ignorance and arrogance; most people don't know, and those that do hide it due to "convictions" that push them, shall we say, in directional dogma.


I believe the largest number of people killed by guns are those who commit suicide, rather than people being murdered. Not sure how that factors into crime statistics. Is suicide a mental condition or a criminal act?
 
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