Michelin LTX A/T2 versus LTX M/S2

[CarbonSteel]

I had two sets of the MS/2's on my F150 and they wore like iron, had a fantastic ride, and worked well in all conditions (rain, mud, sand, snow). The F-250 came with AT/2's on it.

Anyone have experience with the A/T2's? How do they compare with the MS/2's for tire life? I searched and found some posts recommending one over the other, but I did not see any discussing how they wear versus one another.

TIA!

 

[Colt45ws]

Just based on Michelin's site, the A/T2 will have less life..
Also you have to remember even though they are called Michelin A/T2, Ford has the ultimate say and the tire may be a doctored version of what is available aftermarket. Usually wear life is not one of the things they are targeting.

 

[HTSS_TR]

I don't have experience with truck tire because I didn't/don't own a truck or SUV.

In general OEM tires are not the best in term of performance/handling/tread life and since you're happy with MS/2 you may want to stay to it after OEM tire wear out. May be by that time Michelin will have a better replacement for MS/2.

If you have DT nearby you may like to rotate the OEM tires regularly, so that all 4 will wear out evenly and when time to change you will have a choice of new brand and/or new model. Also, usually the rebate(s) during holiday sale are for 4 tires, so you may be able to save some $.

 

[HangFire]

There are better All Terrain tires for the money, and the M/S2 is the better All Weather radial. That leaves no good reason to spend Michelin level dollars for a tire that is outclassed by cheaper tires from other brands.

My tire guy, whom I trust, say the local snow plowers have given up on the A/T2 and gone with the M/S2. It's that much better on snow covered roads.

 

[Lapham3]

My wife has one of the early Grand Cherokees and we ran the MS2 for 10 years and 85k miles. They still had reasonable tread still and worked very well, but a few years ago coming up to another winter I decided to change them. I was very surprised to see that they were still available so it was not much of the decision to make as I bought them again. That's been one of my grips is the lack of continuity of a good product=when you find one and then go to purchase again, it's been replaced by something else-maybe as good, maybe not.

 

[SteveSRT8]

^^^haha, same issue here. Find something good and then it gets discontinued!

M/S2's have been hard to beat since they replaced the regular M/S.

 

[The Critic]

Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
^^^haha, same issue here. Find something good and then it gets discontinued!

M/S2's have been hard to beat since they replaced the regular M/S.

And of course they have now replaced the M/S2 as well.

 

[HangFire]

Originally Posted By: Lapham3
That's been one of my grips is the lack of continuity of a good product=when you find one and then go to purchase again, it's been replaced by something else-maybe as good, maybe not.


Hopefully it's "progress" but sometimes not. The replacement LTX M/S2 was a better tire than the M/S, except for the unfortunate few who got the drier-cracker batches.

Some years back my pickup and I loved my LTX A/T's, not a true All Terrain tire but good enough to get me through the occassional off-road and a very good All Season tire as well. The replacement LTX A/T2 is neither, so I went BFG. They'll be up for replacement in a year or two, by then we'll know if the new Michelins are worthwhile or not.

BTW There are still lots of M/S2's still out there, and some M/S's for that matter.

 

[Hamburgler]

Used to run LTX's, but the sidewalls cracked really badly so I replaced them with the A/T about three years ago. Not as much tread block siping for ice and the A/T makes squirming sounds at parking lot speed with the windows open, but they've been great tires so far. Quiet and good traction.

 

[userfriendly]

I've used both. My GMC Dmax has 275/65/20 LTX AT2s on 20X8.5 wheels. I like the fact they have 3 steel belts instead of two.

The stock tire on the 3500s in Canada is 265/70/18 LTX AT2, and is the spare on my 2500. Same tread, but lighter 2 steel belt construction.

The old softer compound sypped to the max MS2 I have used on half tons, vans and station wagons, were far better on compact snow and ice than the much harder LTXs.

For my purposes, I wouldn't call either of them a true winter tire because one is too hard and the other no good in deep snow.

When guys around here buy Chev/GMC 3500s for commute and work at Highland Valley Copper, they go straight to the tire store and get 275/70/18 M55s, Toyo CTs or Goodyear Dura's put on.

The LTX take-offs are perfect for 1500s than need a truck tire instead of a P-rated passenger tire you can poke your finger through.

www.teck.com

 

[HangFire]

Originally Posted By: Hamburgler
Used to run LTX's, but the sidewalls cracked really badly so I replaced them with the A/T about three years ago.

Which LTX? LTX M/S2 or LTX A/T or LTX A/T2?
Originally Posted By: used_0il
The LTX take-offs are perfect for 1500s than need a truck tire instead of a P-rated passenger tire you can poke your finger through.

Which LTX take-off's? All Michelin Light Truck tires start with LTX.

 

[userfriendly]

The stock tires on GM 3500s is 265/70/18 AT2's, load rating 124 without going under the truck and looking.

That tire on a 1500 depending on who is driving and where should last 70,000 miles.

I put the Goodyear SRA 265/60/20s off my 2500 on a 2013 1500. A perfect fit for the truck on a 8.5-9" wide rim. They are still over 50% at 35,000 miles. New they have 16/32nds.
Great all-weather tire, that size comes with a deeper tread than the Michelin MS2 and they cost less.
Better yet, guys doing lifted trucks almost give them away.

 

[Nate1979]

Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
^^^haha, same issue here. Find something good and then it gets discontinued!

M/S2's have been hard to beat since they replaced the regular M/S.

And of course they have now replaced the M/S2 as well.


Maybe I missed it but what did they replace the MS2 with? I thought the MS2 was still available?

 

[dblshock]

LTX M/S 2 wonderful on my 2WD Toyota Highlander, no question I'd buy again.

 

[gonefishing]

Originally Posted By: Nate1979
Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
^^^haha, same issue here. Find something good and then it gets discontinued!

M/S2's have been hard to beat since they replaced the regular M/S.

And of course they have now replaced the M/S2 as well.


Maybe I missed it but what did they replace the MS2 with? I thought the MS2 was still available?


They have been replaced with the Defender LTX M/S. Same tread design with updated compound: http://www.michelinman.com/US/en/tires/products/defender-ltx-m-s.html

 

[dblshock]

well just updated..that's good.

 

[Nate1979]

The LTX MS2 is still listed on their website with no mention of being replaced that I could see.