Originally Posted By: SumpChump
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
... and don't forget that cheapie HF torque wrench. Nothing makes you feel more like a pro than that satisfying click. You can then pat yourself on the back for a job well done, not like those "other hacks".
Actually it just makes me feel like I gave a sh*t about something and actually wanted to come within a city block of having it done right.
But hey... You go ahead and side with Dealership Dufus Dave the pill popper mechanic. Yep go ahead and side with a guy who loves dropping your hood from as high as he can lift it. Send him on a date with a daughter and your rear will pucker as he drives away in a car with that "qualty workmanship" you defended here.
Torque wrenches are for weenies hey? Pfft!
I'm not sure why you feel the need to typecast mechanics as drug addicts and that you are somehow more qualified than them to do repairs. I'm sure that most mechanics live a cleaner life than you. Mechanical aptitude is something that is developed over time and with experience. It sounds like you don't have much experience or time under the hood.
I manage an 11 mechanic shop. My mechanics do not torque every nut and bolt and I would discourage them if they did. In my shop, quality is the number one job. Period. If the repair is not 100% perfect, it is sent back to the mechanic. The time it takes to get it perfect is irrelevant. Most of the work is by hand with no air tools and only low power electric tools. Granted, I have well seasoned mechanics who are recognized as some of the best in the industry but there is no difference between them and other mechanics.
This is my shop. Our policy is to 'properly tighten' fasteners. Whether that means torquing, measuring bolt stretch, torque to yield, or by feel depends on the application.
Originally Posted By: KrisZ
... and don't forget that cheapie HF torque wrench. Nothing makes you feel more like a pro than that satisfying click. You can then pat yourself on the back for a job well done, not like those "other hacks".
Actually it just makes me feel like I gave a sh*t about something and actually wanted to come within a city block of having it done right.
But hey... You go ahead and side with Dealership Dufus Dave the pill popper mechanic. Yep go ahead and side with a guy who loves dropping your hood from as high as he can lift it. Send him on a date with a daughter and your rear will pucker as he drives away in a car with that "qualty workmanship" you defended here.
Torque wrenches are for weenies hey? Pfft!
I'm not sure why you feel the need to typecast mechanics as drug addicts and that you are somehow more qualified than them to do repairs. I'm sure that most mechanics live a cleaner life than you. Mechanical aptitude is something that is developed over time and with experience. It sounds like you don't have much experience or time under the hood.
I manage an 11 mechanic shop. My mechanics do not torque every nut and bolt and I would discourage them if they did. In my shop, quality is the number one job. Period. If the repair is not 100% perfect, it is sent back to the mechanic. The time it takes to get it perfect is irrelevant. Most of the work is by hand with no air tools and only low power electric tools. Granted, I have well seasoned mechanics who are recognized as some of the best in the industry but there is no difference between them and other mechanics.
This is my shop. Our policy is to 'properly tighten' fasteners. Whether that means torquing, measuring bolt stretch, torque to yield, or by feel depends on the application.
