Originally Posted By: BigCahuna
I guess none of you guys ride motorcycles, because I haven't seen a "motorcycle specific oil" that has a API starburst symbol on the bottle.
Some will, however, have an API Donut on the back, because a motorcycle oil can have current API certification without being GF-5. I would be extremely cautious. Delvac 1 LE 5w-30 has no Starburst on the front, since a CJ-4 oil cannot meet GF-5. It does, however, have an API Donut on the back and is SN certified.
Why would they order new packaging without certification marks only to eventually have to order new, redesigned packaging with certification marks? This is why we have API and ILSAC certification along with proper labeling, to avoid these concerns, which are extremely difficult to resolve. If the PQIA tested this oil, no matter how good it were, it would be flagged for improper labeling.