Tire pressure when towing

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The 35 psi is the pressure of a Standard load P tire and for this the maximum load is calculated for up to 160km/99m/h or if lower maximum speed of tire. The 44 psi is the maximum allowed cold pressure ( 18degrC/65degrF) by the tire-maker.
For laws of nature the tire may even have higher pressure but the tire-makers dont stand in for that, but means that warm pressure rising by temp rising in tire is taken into account.
The SL P tire can probably stand even 70 to 100 psi before it blows.

Also they dont support more loadcapacity at higher pressure, but unofficially higher pressure is also adviced to cover peak-loads , wich in my translation is to be expected overloading in some situations, like when towing.

The difference between that AT-pressure/maxloadpressure/reference pressure of yours 35 psi , and the maximum allowed cold pressure of yours 44 psi, is used for higher speed to highen up the 35 psi with a system depending on speedcode. Also used for alighnment often done at rear , a camber angle above 2degrees + or - ( wheels like this /-\ on the imaginary axle).

Your car has probably pretty oversised tires so could do with lower pressure in normal use.
And you are not allowed to go over the GAWR's , but it happens often enaugh, and then in combination with a R/L unequall loadivision, it would need higher pressure then given in Pressure/loadcapacity lists of tire makers if you would look the half gawr back.

If you give more information about car and tires , and also of the Camper and its tires, I am able to calculate a save pressure with some reserve.

Will give general text I used in other topics to show what is needed( done so I dont have to write it again and again).

Tirepressure advice is all about load on tire and speed ( and sometimes about alighnment - camber angle).

So if you can give details of car and tires , I can calculate an advice pressure with some reserve for things like, pressure-loss in time, unequall loading R/L, incidental extra load, misreadings of pressure scales,and misyudging of weight, etc.

This is from tires next and can be read from sidewall:
Maximum load or loadindex.
Kind of tire to determine the AT-pressure/pressure needed for the maximum load up to maximum speed of tire, or if lower 160km/99m/h/reference-pressure, wich is not the maximum pressure of tire.
Maximum speed of tire, most given as letter ( Q=160km/99m/h,N=140km/86m/h fi)
If you have offroad or tires looking like that , with large profile blocs that cover a part of sidewall, also mention, they are allowed lesser deflection then a normal road tire, then the tire maker used to determine the maximum load (to my conclusion the case for the Bridgestone tires on Ford Explorer in the Ford/Firestone affaire).
If you cant find all of it give sises of tire and Loadkind, then I will google for it.

From car next and mostly can be found on same plate as the original pressure advices:
GAWR and GVWR ( Gross Axle/Vehicle Weight Rating)
But best would be to determine the real weights in your use on seperate tires or estimate it as acurate as possible, by weighing per wheel(pair) or axle.
Maximum speed , you dont go over for even a minute in your use, eventually different for different situations, for instance when towing or fully loaded.

This apart from trafic regulations, if you drive faster then allowed give that speed. Nature punnisches with tire-failure, police only with a penalty.
Give all that and I will calculate and give a picture of one of my filled in spreadsheets in my answer.



Greatings from a Dutch pigheaded self-declared tire-pressure-specialist.
 
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Originally Posted By: jadatis

So if you can give details of car and tires , I can calculate an advice pressure with some reserve for things like, pressure-loss in time, unequall loading R/L, incidental extra load, misreadings of pressure scales,and misyudging of weight, etc.

This is from tires next and can be read from sidewall:
Maximum load or loadindex. 3195 lbs @ 80psi E-rated
Kind of tire to determine the AT-pressure/pressure needed for the maximum load up to maximum speed of tire, or if lower 160km/99m/h/reference-pressure, wich is not the maximum pressure of tire. BF Goodrich AT T/A KO LT285/70R17E 121R
Maximum speed of tire, most given as letter ( Q=160km/99m/h,N=140km/86m/h fi) R
If you have offroad or tires looking like that , with large profile blocs that cover a part of sidewall, also mention, they are allowed lesser deflection then a normal road tire, then the tire maker used to determine the maximum load (to my conclusion the case for the Bridgestone tires on Ford Explorer in the Ford/Firestone affaire). All Terrain tire
If you cant find all of it give sises of tire and Loadkind, then I will google for it.

From car next and mostly can be found on same plate as the original pressure advices:
GAWR and GVWR ( Gross Axle/Vehicle Weight Rating)
GVWR:7385LB
GAWR Front:3595LB
GAWR Rear:4300LB

But best would be to determine the real weights in your use on seperate tires or estimate it as acurate as possible, by weighing per wheel(pair) or axle. Unknown, but no unusual extra loads
Maximum speed , you dont go over for even a minute in your use, eventually different for different situations, for instance when towing or fully loaded. 100mph

This apart from trafic regulations, if you drive faster then allowed give that speed. Nature punnisches with tire-failure, police only with a penalty.
Give all that and I will calculate and give a picture of one of my filled in spreadsheets in my answer.



Greatings from a Dutch pigheaded self-declared tire-pressure-specialist.


Hartelijk bedankt
 
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jadatis?

jadatis?

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The weight distributing hitch puts weight on the front tires as well. The maximum allowed speed for ST rated tires is 65mph. Carlisle Tires says this can be exceeded (but why would you)if you inflate their Radial Trail RH tire 5psi over whats stated on the sidewall.

I towed my 5,500 pound travel trailer all over the country with "P" rated tires at maximum inflation w/my 2011-Silverado 5.3 Crew cab w/short bed. The payload is rated at 1444 pounds.

With your weight trailer and assuming a properly adjusted WD hitch 44 pounds is where you should be.

There is alot of "over thinking" in some of the above posts.
 
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I really wish the passenger and light truck specific tires had load / pressure charts at the manufacturers website like their commercial tire side. I have a 2015 2500HD and the inflation pressures in the door jam are for max loading. 70 PSI is way too brutal when not loaded. I run them at 50-55 when not loaded heavy or towing.

Of course, the ride is greatly improved doing this, but I also noticed a decrease in tire wear and about 1 mpg increase. Doesn't make sense if one only factors that the side wall is flexing a little more. But what I determined, is that at the OEM recommended pressures while empty or light loaded, there was considerable "wheel hop" going on over rough areas of roadways, and when it does, the anti slip is doing its micro braking thing. By running the lower pressures when empty or lightly loaded, the wheel hop is greatly reduced when running down washboard roads. Fuel economy improved and tire life improved. And it seems that effective braking is improved somewhat by running lower pressure when empty.

Even on my commercial truck tires, the max inflation on the tire is 120 PSI. The chart from the tire maker recommends 95 PSI for what I am doing, and that is what I run. The truck OEM recommended 110 PSI in the door jam. Just turned over 435,000 miles on the same set of drive tires and still 9-10/32 even tread. Like I stated, I wish the tire makers all gave us load pressure charts for light truck tires. I have become very skeptical of what a truck OEM says is right.
 
Originally Posted By: TiredTrucker
I really wish the passenger and light truck specific tires had load / pressure charts at the manufacturers website like their commercial tire side.......


There are 2 problems. First, is that vehicle handling is greatly affected by the change in tire pressure, so this ought to be something the vehicle manufacturer should specify, not the tire manufacturer.

Second, is that the load tables are just the first step in the process of setting a pressure. There's quite a bit more to the process, but it seems that the average user only wants to use the load table as is without doing the other things needed to come up with a reliable answer.

And to fill in the gap a bit more: Most over the road truckers have a pretty good handle on their vehicles. They have a good idea of what the loads on the tires are - and most of the time, they run loaded - unlike pickup trucks that most of the time run unloaded. It's a significantly different situation.
 
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