$71,000 for a Pickup Truck !?

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Originally Posted By: Joshua_Skinner
I enjoy my M3, I enjoy my motorcycle. I enjoy that the both of them together were less than 1/5th my annual income.

We all have different values. My argument has been to look at what you buy and spend and make sure it serves you the best and costs you the least. So many people buy more than they need and it's not just the person paying the bill who pays a cost.

I don't ask that you assimilate, but ask that you consider your impact on others.

Fair enough, but if the person can afford it and take care of it what is the personal impact to you or I. I don't like where my neighbor put his pump house as it took down a tree I really liked. I mean where do you want it to stop?
Heck someone can buy a cheap car, not make payments or not insure it or not maintain it and that could impact me.
 
Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
Nothing in this world justifies 50K for a bad-bad guzzling engine, transmission & differential, a frame and 4 wheels. Period.

I recently bought a piece of furniture from Costco and rented a F250 from HD. Got the job done in $20 was the rental price, I didn't have to own that guzzling POS to move my furniture.


Well, you live in a city which has a stratospheric mortgage/rent payment which is quite low on the intelligence scale when it comes to finances. Also, in the city limits you pay city taxes, once again low on that smarty scale. I'm not even going into the amazing city council which makes you pay extra for how big your trash can is, or the plastic bag ban, or how it has rules on how many people can live in a house.

I'll tell you one small reason I choose to drive a truck. When a person driving an M3 is texting while driving crosses the yellow line and head on's my Ram 2500, I'm willing to bet I and my children walk away with a pulse.
 
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Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
I bought a 3/4 ton just because I planned on keeping it a long time and wanted it built. The new Ram 1500's are really jacked up El Caminos. Just look under them. I bought the Sport which has some goodies. The truck makers corner you. You can't get a Ram with Leather seats unless you get "Package". Which quickly takes that price tag up $10,000 for one or two things you want and several things you could care less about.


I have zero issues building houses and condo's with my El Camino.


No way,, Can't build a house unless you drive a F350 crew cab with a diesel engine lift kit huge tires and rims and a lumber rack.


The best work truck is an E350 with a utility or box on it, it can carry a [censored] more than a pickup.

I would only ever buy a 1 ton if I put a different body on it, an 8ft bed is kind of pointless in terms of space. A utility body is far better.
 
I jut checked the Challenger thread. I didn't see one negative comment. The Challenger is available for $75,000 as the Hellcat. Would people call that wasteful? Would they complain about the giant expensive tires? Would they label it a "bro car" if after market wheels and exhaust were added? Would people criticize if comfort options were added? I doubt it. Why do trucks get demonized so much? The Challenger is available as a stripped down V6 car for about $26,000. Surely that would be enough vehicle?
 
Originally Posted By: MaximaGuy
Nothing in this world justifies 50K for a bad-bad guzzling engine, transmission & differential, a frame and 4 wheels. Period.


Someone simply WANTING one is all the "justification" ever needed.
 
Originally Posted By: jrmason
I for one have no issue with anything anybody buys. It's your business after all. Seems like an awful lot of people here that are either jealous or have so much time on their hands they feel the need to stereotype people they don't know. The truth is you guys have no clue how the majority of the population use their vehicles. You only assume you know.


Thanks for saying it for me. It's NO ONE'S business what I buy, how it's driven, or what it's used for. We are not yet a collective socialist society. Not yet.

You can imagine you know all you want, the fact is you don't!
 
Conspicuous consumption.

Yes, some of you guys use your trucks AS TRUCKS - you know, work, haul/tow stuff, etc.

We like to make fun of the people who buy a full size truck, lift it insanely high, then keep it showroom clean and never touch dirt, let alone use the bed for anything. Its akin to buying a corvette and modifying it to be slower or driving it offroad - wrong tool for the job.

You're welcome to drive/own what you want, and we're free to criticize when it seems you purchased something for all the wrong reasons.

I prefer to pad my retirement accounts than drive a new vehicle, let alone one that isn't the right tool for the job, but looks "cool".

To each, their own.
 
Originally Posted By: surfstar
and we're free to criticize when it seems you purchased something for all the wrong reasons


I'd like to know what you get out of this. How does this enhance your life? How does criticizing others over a personal purchase decision make BITOG a more productive and welcoming forum?

It's also interesting that reasons for buying something other than your own are the "wrong" ones.

Originally Posted By: surfstar
To each. their own.


Written, but not demonstrated...
 
Originally Posted By: surfstar

You're welcome to drive/own what you want, and we're free to criticize when it seems you purchased something for all the wrong reasons.

To each, their own.


You say "You are welcome to choose",
then "we get to criticize", then you follow with
"to each, their own".

What kind of double talk is that?

Wake up, surfstar. You don't get judge anyones personal vehicle choice as being "for the wrong reasons". Who appointed you as some kind of "judge" for others, and their "reasons"? Are you self appointed to judge their housing, too? Is any of their housing "too big" for what they need?
 
I eagerly await more blowhards shooting off their mouth before thinking about the hypocrisy in their own spending decisions. Who is next?
 
I understand surfstars position. Th same freedom which allows one to congratulate also allows one to criticize. Different sides of the same coin.

Its a shame that trucks are denigrated yet sports cars which will no more be used to their design potential get a pass; but no one said life was fair.

I would hope anyone who made a decision would be able to stand behind that decision regardless of criticism. After all I would hope the criteria that went into the decision also took into account any and all factors.
 
I bought a truck because I wanted a truck.....anybody have a problem with that? I didn't think so
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Who cares what myself or others say regarding your recent purchase?

A random avatar's comments on the internet shouldn't truly matter to anyone. We like to espouse our own opinions, or else we would never click on a thread that wasn't directly related to our lives.

Someone asks should I buy vehicle A or B?
Then someone says C is better - should they not have commented?

I'm in the camp that someone who buys a truck or SUV should use it as it was designed, same with a sports car. Only using those vehicles to putt around town and get groceries seems a bit of a waste to me. I'm against not utilizing things fully or as intended. I turn off lights when not in the room. That sort of mentality.

I will discuss/criticize topics on here, and so will every other member. Its what makes a "discussion board". We all learn, whether we agree $71k for a pickup is a good idea or not.

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RE: large housing - if someone chooses to live in a bigger house than they "need" - that's fine too, I prefer to save money and retire earlier, while currently traveling on the weekends/vacations instead of being house poor and not able to afford to do anything other than sit in my yard. Different strokes. Heck, buy a big enough truck and you can live in that, instead!
 
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Originally Posted By: gfh77665
I own 6 houses. I hope that irritates the living [censored] out of the critics! LOL


LOL.

Everyone has the right to criticize and judge other persons activities. But that opinion is worthless so it doesn't really matter.

Buying anything more than an econobox with no options is more than anyone may need for personal transportation. But life is too short and I feel sorry for the people who go through life living on the bare minimum when they can afford a little more and enjoy life much more.
 
I find it interesting that most of those promoting conspicuous consumption or, paraphrasing, bigger is better and the h#ll with all you and the environment, are reporting in from Texas. Irritated I'm not. A little sad is all.
 
I am not advocating conspicuous consumption, at all. I have never done that, and never will. I do advocate personal freedoms, and I do not like those who self righteously appoint themselves to judge others.

You envy Texas? You mad bro? LOL.
 
Originally Posted By: Joshua_Skinner
I find it interesting that most of those promoting conspicuous consumption or, paraphrasing, bigger is better and the h#ll with all you and the environment, are reporting in from Texas. Irritated I'm not. A little sad is all.


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Originally Posted By: Nate1979
But life is too short and I feel sorry for the people who go through life living on the bare minimum when they can afford a little more and enjoy life much more.


I agree with Nate. Life is short,enjoy it to the fullest while you can.
 
Originally Posted By: surfstar

I will discuss/criticize topics on here, and so will every other member. Its what makes a "discussion board".


There you go. Remember I am the guy who says the most foolish are the ones who expect agreement on an open board. We don't have to agree, and I'll defend your right to say whatever you feel you need to.

But seriously, you do come off as quite judgmental, with an air of superiority. Your choices are fine, you get to do whatever you prefer. But that in no way entitles you to pronounce others choices as somehow less intelligent...
 
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