Hundreds march at McDonald's HQ over low wages

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People keep coming back to this "not a real job" thing.

Okay, let's accept that. These are bad jobs that were never meant to allow someone to make a living. Fine.

What do you suggest these people do? Do you have anything to offer that doesn't come down to "move up the chain or die while we watch?"
 
Originally Posted By: Trav

That point has come and gone, this McDonald's business is the end result.
Its going to take decades of hardship for many to undo what these crackpots have done.
First and foremost tax the bejesus on imports from anywhere but first world countries that have a fair trade policy with the United States. Force by regulation manufacturers to return production to the US.

They passed regulations that made them go offshore they can reverse it.
*Put the brakes on this criminal entity know as the EPA.
*Lower corporate tax rates to a low level, make it worth producing here.
*Open more trade schools and stop preaching only those with a degree can earn a decent living.
*Stop using government agencies as a weapon again manufacturers and taxpayers.
*Close the borders tighter than a bulls AHole in hurricane, legal immigration only with quotas and skilled only.
*Drill baby drill. Get gas down to $2 a gallon and keep it there.
*Stop subsidizing electric and hybrid vehicles, phones, welfare, student loans, all subsidies to the cord producers.
*Support the military with proper funding and make conscription or paid (minimum wage) community service mandatory.
*Implement real health care reform and repeal this trash that has been foisted on the people against their will.

I can think of a whole lot more but this would be a good start.


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Originally Posted By: d00df00d
People keep coming back to this "not a real job" thing.

Okay, let's accept that. These are bad jobs that were never meant to allow someone to make a living. Fine.

What do you suggest these people do? Do you have anything to offer that doesn't come down to "move up the chain or die while we watch?"


That decision is up to the person unhappy working at a low paying part-time job.
 
Originally Posted By: Trav
*Open more trade schools and stop preaching only those with a degree can earn a decent living.

Hey, we agree on something!
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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
People keep coming back to this "not a real job" thing.

Okay, let's accept that. These are bad jobs that were never meant to allow someone to make a living. Fine.

What do you suggest these people do? Do you have anything to offer that doesn't come down to "move up the chain or die while we watch?"


That decision is up to the person unhappy working at a low paying part-time job.


Thought not.

Anyone else?
 
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
People keep coming back to this "not a real job" thing.

Okay, let's accept that. These are bad jobs that were never meant to allow someone to make a living. Fine.

What do you suggest these people do? Do you have anything to offer that doesn't come down to "move up the chain or die while we watch?"


That decision is up to the person unhappy working at a low paying part-time job.



Exactly. A person sitting on their arse complaining accomplishes nothing. Hit the pavement, look for a better job, learn a trade. These things don't happen by themselves. God helps those who help themselves. There's a lot of truth to that saying.
 
d00df00d,

Any hobbies they could turn into potential money making careers?


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Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Any hobbies they could turn into potential money making careers?

Assume they have none. Which is probably safe considering they have neither the time nor the money to pursue anything serious, let alone the wherewithal to make a career out of it.
 
Raising the minimum wage is nothing less than combining labor and welfare.

Us middle class taxpayers are still getting stuck with the bill.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Any hobbies they could turn into potential money making careers?

Assume they have none. Which is probably safe considering they have neither the time nor the money to pursue anything serious, let alone the wherewithal to make a career out of it.


Well then it looks like they'll be working for minimum wage, and probably complaining about it.
 
I guess the point I was trying to make Trav is the suggestions you made I 100% agree with but congress benefits by currents tax laws, the [censored] healthcare system etc etc. Enter lobbyist/corporations and so on. You get the picture maybe they should wear their corporate sponsors patches like NASCAR . Things won't change until we have term limits or possible a congress gets paid by an achievement based system instead of a guaranteed salary.
 
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Well then it looks like they'll be working for minimum wage, and probably complaining about it.

Exactly.

And we'll be sitting here whining indignantly rather than grappling with their reality or coming up with feasible alternatives.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
People keep coming back to this "not a real job" thing.

Okay, let's accept that. These are bad jobs that were never meant to allow someone to make a living. Fine.

What do you suggest these people do? Do you have anything to offer that doesn't come down to "move up the chain or die while we watch?"


I can pull up the "jobs" section on Craigslist any day of the week, and it's constantly filled with jobs that pay considerably more than fast food wages and don't require any special skills or experience other than the ability to follow directions and show up to work when needed. If these people can't get a job that pays more than McDonald's, they aren't trying very hard.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Well then it looks like they'll be working for minimum wage, and probably complaining about it.

Exactly.

And we'll be sitting here whining indignantly rather than grappling with their reality or coming up with feasible alternatives.

We listed feasible alternatives. Let them do something to improve their situation other than marching hoping for a pay raise. They should learn a skill, or a trade if an education is out of their reach. I know plenty of people who did quite well w/o going to college, and trust me these people weren't marching for higher wages, or crying because they couldn't live on minimum wage.

As KDOAXS said, there are plenty of jobs paying more than minimum wage. Getting one requires a desire to actually look, and pound the pavement. I have a feeling a lot of the people marching for higher pay never tried.
 
There are people who work hard and seek to improve their situation through the fruits of their own labor, and there are people who complain, [censored], whine, and cry until their situation is improved by the fruits of others' efforts. In this case, the minimum wage will increase, and like every other tax-funded program, the middle class of America will be squeezed and shoulder the burden.

You radical lefties need to stop assuming people are inherently good.
 
Originally Posted By: BowNisPar
There are people who work hard and seek to improve their situation through the fruits of their own labor, and there are people who complain, [censored], whine, and cry until their situation is improved by the fruits of others' efforts. In this case, the minimum wage will increase, and like every other tax-funded program, the middle class of America will be squeezed and shoulder the burden.

You radical lefties need to stop assuming people are inherently good.


Well said. Some people are just lazy, and expect it to be dished out on a silver platter by those who actually made something for themselves. Its a sickening shame!
 
Originally Posted By: BowNisPar
You radical lefties need to stop assuming people are inherently good.

This. And there are so many things in society that get royally screwed up by this mindset.
 
And seriously, anybody who thinks flipping burgers should be a career that allows for a comfortable family environment is a moron. It is a job for teens and part-timers.

Make something of your life...you'll have nobody to blame but yourself if you aren't happy.
 
Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Any hobbies they could turn into potential money making careers?

Assume they have none. Which is probably safe considering they have neither the time nor the money to pursue anything serious, let alone the wherewithal to make a career out of it.

d00df00d,

There was a TV commercial in the 1980's.... "A mind is a terrible thing to waste"
This phrase is true for folks of any race, religion, creed, nationality, color, etc...
Learn something to provide a better future.

Just wondering what career field you are in d00df00d ?


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All this hate for the McDonald's and Walmart employees...

What happens to all that money if the McDonald's employees don't get their raise? I'll tell you, Corporate America gets to keep the money. And who's Corporate America? Are they people like you and me? Nope, they're the top 1% with 40% of the nation's money supply in their pockets. Think about it: 1% of the population gobbling up 40% of all the money in the United States! Do you think they work hard for it? Do you think they've earned it? Nope, they're kicking back in their cushy office chair while the money stacks up in their bank account. Money that SHOULD be available for you and me. That's right, if the McDonald's employees had a bigger slice of the pie, there would be MORE money in circulation, not less. More money in circulation means more money for you and me instead of the top 1% having it all. You guys that hate the McDonald's and Walmart employee are shooting yourselves in the foot. What you're doing is aiding and abetting that rich man at the top in his cushy office chair raking in six figures a year and keeping all the money for himself.
 
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