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This could be interesting - Africa Twin
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Originally Posted By: webfors
Hmmm...
What's with the name?
oh and:
http://powersports.honda.com/africatwin.aspx
Hmmm...
What's with the name?
oh and:
http://powersports.honda.com/africatwin.aspx
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Originally Posted By: webfors
Hmmm...
What's with the name?
Sumptin to do wit a race in Dakar perhaps
Hmmm...
What's with the name?
Sumptin to do wit a race in Dakar perhaps
Originally Posted By: Shrubitup
Originally Posted By: webfors
Hmmm...
What's with the name?
Sumptin to do wit a race in Dakar perhaps
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
Originally Posted By: webfors
Hmmm...
What's with the name?
Sumptin to do wit a race in Dakar perhaps
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
Originally Posted By: Atesz792
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
No, we didn't get the legendary Africa Twin. Honda didn't import many "type R" cars into North America either. Honda thinks that we don't deserve high performance cars and bikes.
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
No, we didn't get the legendary Africa Twin. Honda didn't import many "type R" cars into North America either. Honda thinks that we don't deserve high performance cars and bikes.
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
Originally Posted By: Atesz792
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
No, we didn't get the legendary Africa Twin. Honda didn't import many "type R" cars into North America either. Honda thinks that we don't deserve high performance cars and bikes.
NHTSA FMVSS CARB and EPA also had their invisible hands shaping the market. Honda finally outsmarted them perhaps.
Don't know MSRP but if it's 50% less than KTM they will sell many of them.
Originally Posted By: Atesz792
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
No, we didn't get the legendary Africa Twin. Honda didn't import many "type R" cars into North America either. Honda thinks that we don't deserve high performance cars and bikes.
NHTSA FMVSS CARB and EPA also had their invisible hands shaping the market. Honda finally outsmarted them perhaps.
Don't know MSRP but if it's 50% less than KTM they will sell many of them.
Originally Posted By: Atesz792
Originally Posted By: Shrubitup
Originally Posted By: webfors
Hmmm...
What's with the name?
Sumptin to do wit a race in Dakar perhaps
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
I think it was called a TransAlp.
Originally Posted By: Shrubitup
Originally Posted By: webfors
Hmmm...
What's with the name?
Sumptin to do wit a race in Dakar perhaps
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
I think it was called a TransAlp.
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Jeez, guys, just watch the freakin' video linked above.
It's called Africa Twin because of the Dakar racing heritage, and (wait for it!) because it's a twin.
The desert is a harsh place, yet can be conquered riding one of these (in theory at least).
Understand now?
Edit: and no, the TransAlp is an entirely different bike.
It's called Africa Twin because of the Dakar racing heritage, and (wait for it!) because it's a twin.
The desert is a harsh place, yet can be conquered riding one of these (in theory at least).
Understand now?
Edit: and no, the TransAlp is an entirely different bike.
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I like the name, I think it makes perfect sense.
Done right, this bike could be a game changer for Honda in the US.
Of course, we don't have any concrete specs or pricing, but I'm hopeful.
Originally Posted By: Atesz792
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Edit: and no, the TransAlp is an entirely different bike.
Right you are... my Honda history is rusty.
Done right, this bike could be a game changer for Honda in the US.
Of course, we don't have any concrete specs or pricing, but I'm hopeful.
Originally Posted By: Atesz792
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Edit: and no, the TransAlp is an entirely different bike.
Right you are... my Honda history is rusty.
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With the caveat that they don't have the same sort of rules about language and such - (read: if you are easily offended DO NOT go here)
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1064796
Has a lot of information, including a number of animated GIF's comparing it to other notable entries into the segment.
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1064796
Has a lot of information, including a number of animated GIF's comparing it to other notable entries into the segment.
Originally Posted By: Atesz792
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
The ''original'' Africa Twin was the XLV750, made as a privateer Paris/Dakar bike to compete against the BMW twins. I had one for 5 or 6 years, loved it, but a bit heavy for off road use. It wasn't the link to Paris/Dakar that impressed me, but it's link to American flattrack racing - the engine was used as the basis for the RS750.
We didn't get the early ''French'' colour scheme of red, white and blue, but got the later black engine gold wheel model. I painted mine in Honda XR colours.
So you over there never did get the 'original' legendary Africa Twin?
The ''original'' Africa Twin was the XLV750, made as a privateer Paris/Dakar bike to compete against the BMW twins. I had one for 5 or 6 years, loved it, but a bit heavy for off road use. It wasn't the link to Paris/Dakar that impressed me, but it's link to American flattrack racing - the engine was used as the basis for the RS750.
We didn't get the early ''French'' colour scheme of red, white and blue, but got the later black engine gold wheel model. I painted mine in Honda XR colours.
There is also a history of the US using different names for models from the rest of the world.
Examples:
Yamaha YZF600R (in the US) called a "Thundercat" everywhere else.
Honda's "FireBlade" never made it over there, but the bikes did.
Kawasaki USA like to slap the "Ninja" name on everything.
So maybe the "Africa Twin" name will or won't get to the USA, even if the bike definitely does.
Examples:
Yamaha YZF600R (in the US) called a "Thundercat" everywhere else.
Honda's "FireBlade" never made it over there, but the bikes did.
Kawasaki USA like to slap the "Ninja" name on everything.
So maybe the "Africa Twin" name will or won't get to the USA, even if the bike definitely does.
Originally Posted By: weasley
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So maybe the "Africa Twin" name will or won't get to the USA, even if the bike definitely does.
I sort of doubt that the Honda Powersports website would be calling it the Africa Twin if it was not to be called the Africa Twin.
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So maybe the "Africa Twin" name will or won't get to the USA, even if the bike definitely does.
I sort of doubt that the Honda Powersports website would be calling it the Africa Twin if it was not to be called the Africa Twin.
Originally Posted By: weasley
There is also a history of the US using different names for models from the rest of the world.
Examples:
Yamaha YZF600R (in the US) called a "Thundercat" everywhere else.
Honda's "FireBlade" never made it over there, but the bikes did.
Kawasaki USA like to slap the "Ninja" name on everything.
I'd never realised the 'Blade wasn't called a 'Blade in the US. Learn something everyday! Another one they have is the Kawasaki GTR1000 and GTR1400 - known there as "Concours". I'd love to know the science behind different names for different markets.
There is also a history of the US using different names for models from the rest of the world.
Examples:
Yamaha YZF600R (in the US) called a "Thundercat" everywhere else.
Honda's "FireBlade" never made it over there, but the bikes did.
Kawasaki USA like to slap the "Ninja" name on everything.
I'd never realised the 'Blade wasn't called a 'Blade in the US. Learn something everyday! Another one they have is the Kawasaki GTR1000 and GTR1400 - known there as "Concours". I'd love to know the science behind different names for different markets.
What do they call the Zed One in the US ?
Originally Posted By: hpb
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I'd never realised the 'Blade wasn't called a 'Blade in the US. ... I'd love to know the science behind different names for different markets.
FireBlade was 900RR.
SP1/SP2 was RC51
ZX6ENinja = ZZR 600 (Kawasaki USA call anything mildly sporty a Ninja)
I've read it is usually either marketing or someone else legally owns the name.
Originally Posted By: Silk
What do they call the Zed One in the US ?
Kawasaki Z1/Z1000 ?
Africa Twin Prototype
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I'd never realised the 'Blade wasn't called a 'Blade in the US. ... I'd love to know the science behind different names for different markets.
FireBlade was 900RR.
SP1/SP2 was RC51
ZX6ENinja = ZZR 600 (Kawasaki USA call anything mildly sporty a Ninja)
I've read it is usually either marketing or someone else legally owns the name.
Originally Posted By: Silk
What do they call the Zed One in the US ?
Kawasaki Z1/Z1000 ?
Africa Twin Prototype
Well parallel twins are usually cheaper to manufacture and more compact. So it makes a lot of sense, and if you you a 270 crank in one, it does mimick a V or an L twin.
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