Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
This thread is winning...
I suppose it depends on what side of the isle you happen to be on.
It is a testament to the fact that Purolator makes products that are indeed capable of proper filtration.
It is also the bane of existence to those that have dedicated their lives to "prove" the inferiority of these filters.
Originally Posted By: webfors
Originally Posted By: jk_636
Originally Posted By: webfors
No thanks...
This filter is nothing to be proud of. It has the signs of a filter that could tear, wide V type spacing of pleats at the seam and wavy media.
If you want to convince me to use Puro's again post pictures of them with straight, even, tight pleating all the way around... leaving out 2-4 pleats at the seam does not impress me on any filter.
This sounds like a last ditch effort to save an ending cause...
It has already been well established that wavy media is nothing but cosmetic and does not affect the performance of the filter whatsoever.
Characteristics of a filter that would tear? What the heck does that mean? You are either pregnant or your not, much like the filter either tore or it didnt.
These arguments are getting more and more far fetched, but I do admire the tenacity with which they are defended by the anti-purolator trust.
lol
cause and effect my friend. I look at the details. You look at things in black and white with no critical thinking involved. We are of different minds is all.
Fun fact of debate: Personal attacks are used by those who are on the losing side of an argument when statistical fact is not available or has failed to convince the target audience. The unfortunate part of this tactic is that it does not fool anyone who has deductive reasoning.
I dont have any capability for critical thinking eh? That may be your opinion, but this is fact: This filter is not torn, and is just another in a series of many examples that are proof positive that these filters are safe for use. I dont need to make personal attacks to prove my point. The same cannot be said for everyone...
Originally Posted By: webfors
If you want to see a Purolator filter I approve of 100% see my recent post of the L36135 I just posted. That's how *all* filters should be built. And look, no "metal" end caps, no solid center cage, etc, etc.. Why is it perfect? Because the pleating is perfect, the filter media strong and straight, and because it went 10k dang miles!
Don't tell me wavy media and inconsistent wide sloppy pleating is fine. It's not fine. It's sub par.
There is no doubt that the filter you posted looks great.
But wavy pleating is not indicative of a sub par filter. Liquid (in this case oil) is able to be pushed through porous media whether that media is straight up and down or has curved features. Nothing personal, just physics.
Dont confuse fiction with fact.
Here are the facts as we know them:
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Some Purolator filters tear, and I think the list is up to a whole what, 60 filters? (under questionable circumstances at best. I cannot emphasize that enough since all filters are used under different circumstances and variables and it would be too easy to induce or fake a "failure" online to perpetuate a fallacy.) I think this has always been CaptBarkey's position, that it would be very easy for unscrupulous characters to purposely damage a filter in order to push their own agenda forward. Im not accusing anyone, but it is possible.
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Some filters dont, and it would be safe to say that the majority dont.
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My filters haven't EVER torn. How can this be? The problem hasn't made it to Texas? I just take better care of my vehicles than EVERYONE else? Purolator sends me special filters not available to the public? Advanced Auto Parts doesn't carry bad filters? Marvel mystery oil keeps my media lubricated and clean? All are possible, but none are probable. Realistically, it just goes to show that these "problems" are not as widespread as though with agendas would like you to believe.
What we are left with is the undeniable fact that the filter situation is limited at best, and no matter HOW HARD PEOPLE TRY TO DENY IT, filters are posted consistently that prove they are able to perform as advertised, and as long as these tear free filters are posted, it disproves the myth that all Purolator products are junk.
