Comments on 2004 Mercedes S430 ~100K miles

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No, I have not purchased it! I am the procrastinator in cheif; If you want, I can post the "stolen" pictures.
 
Have you "interviewed" a local specialist in this vehicle/make for a comfort level? Or asked some friends with MB who they use besides the dealer. This can make or break a relationship with an older vehicle.

I own a less reliable Subaru that is a hoot to drive but an incredible specialist with inexpensive hourly rate($65/hr) makes ownership pleasant even at 10yr/180k mark.
 
The place itself is one of the local specialist. I would most likely have to take it to the dealer in Natick for PPI.

Post purchase, I will have to be the brains and use the local shop as the brawl for repair and maintenance work or use the place where I would be purchasing it from.

Part of the attraction is the allure of being the brain to maintain this vehicle. This might be over my head but I have been born as an engineer, so with the readily available resources in the connected world, I might be able to take the plunge. Don't laugh but the next immediate purchase (or even before the car) would be that $1000 MaxiDAS scanner :)
 
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Originally Posted By: Pop_Rivit
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: surfstar
A stupid, stupid purchase.

LS430 if you "need" something in that class.

The maintenance/upkeep costs of the largest Benz would be akin to a boat.


Affluent folks that buy a Benz can also afford to have it repaired...



The really affluent people are smarter than that with their money.


Back in the day of the 115 and later 123, a basic Mercedes sedan was a very high quality car with no flash.
The most basic cars gave you a four cylinder gas or diesel engine with windups, although vacuum operated power door locks were always standard on these cars.
Things like A/C, alloys and a radio (Becker Europa) were optional.
Heck, with the four cylinder diesel, even an automatic was optional, althought the four speed stick was probably a better choice.
If you wanted to spluge, you might have popped for a 280E.
People with both money and good sense bought these cars because they could expect to drive one for ten or fifteen years and any number of miles with no serious mechanical issues.
These were also very pleasant, safe and comfortable cars to drive, on a level nothing from either Asia or this country had yet achieved.
The solidity of the structure on rough roads alone was a revelation, along with the excellent long-travel suspension.
The doors slammed closed with a solidity not then seen in anything else, althought the trunk lids always did sound tinny.
If you get to drive a good 115 or 123, you'll understand.
So, yes, many really affluent people did buy Mercedes cars and for all of the right reasons.
 
real affluent people don't need to keep a vehicle for 15 years unless they have some special attachment to it.
 
Originally Posted By: Vikas
real affluent people don't need to keep a vehicle for 15 years unless they have some special attachment to it.

It's not a matter of need, but rather one of goals in selecting a car. Newer is better has never been the philosophy of everyone with a few excess bucks rattling around in their jeans.
Plenty of really affluent people want no more from a car than reliable and durable operation along with good driving dynamics and comfortable seats.
A basic Mercedes sedan fit the bill.
You could drive it yourself for eight or ten years and then pass it on as a college car, which many people did.
Only affluent folks were buying these cars, since they were rather costly.
Nobody bought these cars for the flash value, since there wasn't any.
They were simply cars built to an overall quality level no other maker had attained.
Things have changed and Mercedes no longer makes basic cars offering very high build quality along with great driving dynamics and low cost of ownership.
They do now make something that can only be described as a FWD dishwasher, as one poster put it above.
 
Originally Posted By: JC1
Vikas,

Have a look at this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV9rJwEOCus

A scanner for a Mercedes
http://www.harborfreight.com/autel-maxidas-automotive-diagnostic-and-analysis-system-62385.html

What a bargain at $1099 before taxes..... Yikes....
You should have included the one where Scotty changes the air shock on one of the Mercedes for low low price of only $999.95! I would be the one to tell anybody else to stay away unless they get in with their eyes (and wallet) open.
 
Lets not forget about the experience either. Not every purchase has to be about squeezing Lincoln until he screams.

An S class is an amazing vehicle to drive, its an awesome experience. Anyone who thinks a dear god, a camry is in the same league is out of it.

So buy it, heck go for the big motor. The V12 offers so, so much and really isn't that terrible to own. Nothing wafts like a V12, its simply un matched.

The first time I drove an S600 I was doing about 110 and not realizing it, they build speed like nothing else, they just want to settle around 130-140 and will cruise their all day.
 
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I am surprised in the above video the car is that loud for the coin spent. Fast yes but loud too at least in the video.
 
The videos sound is off, but 180 is still fast going to get some noise.



IMHO the W220 is the least desirable S class, I still prefer the W140 and the W221. The W140 is really an amazing piece of engineering. But sadly it cost to much to build, and the average consumer isn't willing to pay for a luxury car that's as good at 100k or 200k as it is at mile 1.
 
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That place has W140 too with all new wiring and rubber parts in the engine but my boss does not like old looking Mercedes, so that one is not in picture.

Nice to be able to effortlessly cruise at 150 mph but unfortunately I am not rich enough to have my own chauffeur when they take away my licence.
 
Originally Posted By: rjundi
I am surprised in the above video the car is that loud for the coin spent. Fast yes but loud too at least in the video.

Air drag at 180 mph is enormous.
 
Originally Posted By: Vikas
You should have included the one where Scotty changes the air shock on one of the Mercedes for low low price of only $999.95! I would be the one to tell anybody else to stay away unless they get in with their eyes (and wallet) open.


That sounds about right for an OEM airmatic. The aftermarket Arnott are about half that. I think they're also lifetime warranty too so you only have to buy them once.

And don't get that $1100 scanner, there are a few threads over at Benzword and Mbworld where people have mentioned buying a chinese C3 or C4 Star Diagnostic system and it's worked out. Or there are members on those forums that sell them also, but they're a bit more, $850 last I heard. Let me know if you get it, I'm in MA too.

I got my PPI at the Westwood dealer, they had a free breakfast/lunch bar when getting service. They also gave me the VMI which is the Vehicle Maintenance Inquiry or something like that. Some won't give it to you.

Oh and if it uses Shell ATF 134, there's a Shell distributor in Worcester that sells it for around $62 for a 12 quart case, much cheaper than the dealer.
 
I was told that this one actually has been already Arnott'ed but that needs to verified. If the closure system is leaking or broken, I might not go forward with this deal and keep an eye for a different specimen. Thanks for the owners manual; I am going to study it to see what things are not working. Also ordered the workshop DVD. I had been bugging my brother and sister to purchase it but neither ever did. They do call me whenever their E-class has a problem though!

What does one get with the chinese C3 or C4 system? Cable and windows software? I see cheap cables on ebay but they don't show any software included in the picture.

I am on the (just) other side of I-495 and Westwood is way out of my usual commute but swinging by Natick is not too bad.
 
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