Originally Posted By: kawie_guy
Originally Posted By: 2010Civic
awesome AWD system(polaris hands down has the best AWD system).
Yeah, the Po system may be the best AWD system, but it's still a AWD system. Not a real locking, controllable diff lock that stays engaged like a a true 4x4 system. In other words, do you want a rock crawler-Rubicon system, or would you prefer the Subaru type system? For my money and my quad, I'll take the real 4x4 system everyday and twice on Sunday! The Po system is computer/sensor controlled and goes in and out of turning the front wheels as often as the system thinks it needs to. And the front wheels have to spin before they will engage. Then the rider never knows when it's going in or when it's coming out. And the whole thing cancels out if the throttle is applied or a certain speed is attained. Units without the ADC fix for the bad system only send engine braking to the rear wheels which is downright dangerous on loose, steep downhills. If they do have the ADC "fix", they can't go in reverse without holding in the over-ride button (pre 2011?), and you must switch in to the ADC everytime when you attempt a down hill or after it has been cancelled by the computer. The Po system also needs special oil in the hubs which requires more maintenance. If the system fails (and it does often, just ask Doug Meyer of atvtv.com), it will default to 2wd until the problem is fixed. And fixing it can be a total [censored]. Since it's all electrical, the problem will not be so obvious. Even the dealers have turned folks away when they couldn't find what was throwing the error code. Need I go on!?
Listen, there's one thing serious off-roaders learned decades ago.......a locking 4x4 system is simply the best way to go. That's why it's used in all the other atv's except Can Am, and all the serious truck-type off road vehicles, and all the custom built rock crawlers. It's simple, it tough, and it works. Most importantly, it's driver controlled. And any serious off roader will tell you he trusts his own judgement and skill over some [censored] computer!
Comparing the Polaris AWD system to a Subaru is not accurate at all. The way the Polaris AWD system works is actually very simple. The front axle contains a Hilliard Clutch. As soon as the rear wheels start to turn faster than the front wheels, this causes the Hilliard Clutch to lock up and deliver power to both front wheels. This done mechanically, not by a computer. Older models like my Scrambler have two Hilliard Clutches in the hubs, while newer models have one in the center of the axle.
Originally Posted By: 2010Civic
awesome AWD system(polaris hands down has the best AWD system).
Yeah, the Po system may be the best AWD system, but it's still a AWD system. Not a real locking, controllable diff lock that stays engaged like a a true 4x4 system. In other words, do you want a rock crawler-Rubicon system, or would you prefer the Subaru type system? For my money and my quad, I'll take the real 4x4 system everyday and twice on Sunday! The Po system is computer/sensor controlled and goes in and out of turning the front wheels as often as the system thinks it needs to. And the front wheels have to spin before they will engage. Then the rider never knows when it's going in or when it's coming out. And the whole thing cancels out if the throttle is applied or a certain speed is attained. Units without the ADC fix for the bad system only send engine braking to the rear wheels which is downright dangerous on loose, steep downhills. If they do have the ADC "fix", they can't go in reverse without holding in the over-ride button (pre 2011?), and you must switch in to the ADC everytime when you attempt a down hill or after it has been cancelled by the computer. The Po system also needs special oil in the hubs which requires more maintenance. If the system fails (and it does often, just ask Doug Meyer of atvtv.com), it will default to 2wd until the problem is fixed. And fixing it can be a total [censored]. Since it's all electrical, the problem will not be so obvious. Even the dealers have turned folks away when they couldn't find what was throwing the error code. Need I go on!?
Listen, there's one thing serious off-roaders learned decades ago.......a locking 4x4 system is simply the best way to go. That's why it's used in all the other atv's except Can Am, and all the serious truck-type off road vehicles, and all the custom built rock crawlers. It's simple, it tough, and it works. Most importantly, it's driver controlled. And any serious off roader will tell you he trusts his own judgement and skill over some [censored] computer!
Comparing the Polaris AWD system to a Subaru is not accurate at all. The way the Polaris AWD system works is actually very simple. The front axle contains a Hilliard Clutch. As soon as the rear wheels start to turn faster than the front wheels, this causes the Hilliard Clutch to lock up and deliver power to both front wheels. This done mechanically, not by a computer. Older models like my Scrambler have two Hilliard Clutches in the hubs, while newer models have one in the center of the axle.
