Originally Posted By: buster
Originally Posted By: zpinch
You guys are assuming Amsoil doesnt test their oils in engine test rigs?! They do, just like the other major oil blenders.
Before anyone goes any further, look at amsoil's latest performance test paper on a DOUBLE length IIIG engine test, results are fantastic. Again, tests are done by a third party tester.
I'm well aware of how good Amsoil is. The article is pointing out how a simple bench test really means NOTHING in the real world.
I had an Amsoil guy tell me how state of the art Amsoil's lab is and how they have more testing equipment than any other oil maker. I laughed. First of all, Amsoil FINALLY just got their own engine test bays about 2-3 years ago. Little late to the game. They have always relied on SWRI for their own testing. Nothing wrong with that, it's just comical to hear their sales force make up such nonsense. Same with RP.
I too laugh when an Amsoil "dealer" starts shovelling. Not all dealers are idiots,for example our sponsor Pablo is fantastic but sadly that isn't the norm when I comes to Amsoil.
I feel Amsoil does themselves a disservice by allowing people they don't know to represent their product and the Amsoil name suffers even though the product is very good.
Today's higher tech engines aren't getting lower tech or less complicated and I believe there will be a point when all engines will have very stringent certification process and without these certs an oil just isn't up to snuff.
Basically we are already there so these smaller blenders are going to have to play by the same rules or suffer sales losses.
Amsoil guys buy Amsoil regardless of price so if the products price increased because of the cost of acquiring real certs then those people are still going to buy Amsoil however real certs means non fanboys may give the stuff a shot which opens doors for Amsoil,not closes them.
Ultimately these blenders have to choose whether actual certification and the doors those certs open are worth the investment.
No one questions Amsoil quality,they question the cost that quality comes at since there is no certification.