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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL


LOL! That reminds me of the guy that shoe-horned a 6.8L V10 into his SN95
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And those sound even worse! Like a UPS truck...
 
The ecoboost V6s don't sound bad, provided you keep the exhaust quiet enough. Just open up the intake and let the induction and turbo noise out and it's not unpleasant at all. And for a little V6, they get some work done.

The mpg isn't great, only slightly better than the V8 trucks, but they have a nicer torque curve than the 5.0, so it's still a win. And for someone who spends time idling around a farm or something where it's not getting into boost, the smaller V6 definitely burns less fuel.
 
Originally Posted By: rslifkin
The ecoboost V6s don't sound bad, provided you keep the exhaust quiet enough. Just open up the intake and let the induction and turbo noise out and it's not unpleasant at all. And for a little V6, they get some work done.


Yeah - listening to the turbos sure is nice. Otherwise, it doesn't have the burble of the V8.

Best sounding V6 was the VQ in my G35. Start it up and it had a nice rumble like an Italian machine. Don't know how Nissan did it but that thing sounded sweet!

For the most part I could care less what it sounds like as long as it puts me back in the seat and puts a grin on my face.
 
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Yeah - listening to the turbos sure is nice. Otherwise, it doesn't have the burble of the V8.

Best sounding V6 was the VQ in my G35. Start it up and it had a nice rumble like an Italian machine. Don't know how Nissan did it but that thing sounded sweet!

For the most part I could care less what it sounds like as long as it puts me back in the seat and puts a grin on my face.


How does Nissan make theirs sound like a tuned pipe organ and most of the others just drone? My MIL's 350z is one of the sweetest exhaust notes I have ever heard from the factory. Amazing, you actually move the throttle just to hear the sound.

But no turbo whistles, wastegate poofs, or any other nonsense here, only a V8 gets in my garage. All of mine but my boat are SUPER quiet, that's what makes it nicer at the end of a long drive for me...
 
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Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: boxcartommie22
i am sorry but i find it hard to believe he didn't know what he was talking about. the questions I asked him he didn't know so he put me on hold got the info. and read to me all the info.as above. what is your source of info.? I called ford performance group svt


I've built a few engines and been involved in the SBF and SBC scene for a number of years.

It is quite easy to look up the dimensions for the engines being discussed.

The 6.2L Ford is physically huge. That's why it was never used in the Mustang, whilst the 4.6L, 5.0L and 5.4L have all been used.

The history of the engines is actually somewhat amusing. The original Modular was Hurricane (which later became BOSS after Katrina), which was a large OHC engine with a 4" bore like its Windsor predecessors. However, due to size restraints on the engine compartments Ford wanted to put it in (think the Lincoln Continental, which was FWD) the large engine wasn't going to fit. So, they came up with a physically smaller version of the engine by reducing bore spacing and diameter. This is what resulted in the 4.6L and later the taller decked 5.4L Ford. The 6.8L V10 also shares the same bore size and spacing as the other two. The bean counters didn't find it logical to manufacture two completely different engine families, both V8's, at the same time, particularly with the niche the larger family would fill, so the original Hurricane engine was just shelved.

Years later, Ford was looking at bringing back a larger displacement engine and so they resurrected the project. The result of this was that the 6.2L happened.

The 6.2L is in many ways similar to the old 427SOHC; it is basically a resurrection of that legendary engine. Deep breathing 2-valve heads with overhead camshafts and large bores. It had the potential to be a very potent engine. The problem is that it is very large and subsequently not practical to put in something small like the Mustang.


Ford figured out to put a Boss 429 into the 1969 Mustang way back when, somebody's going to figure out how to put a Boss 6.2 into a late-model Mustang. Hotrodder's are funny that way!

The 427 Cammer is one of my favorite Ford engines, and I can see that the 6.2 is fairly close to its design concept and dimensions. The 427 had a bore spacing of 4.625", which is fairly close to the 4.53 of the 6.2. If Ford really wanted to stretch it, they could get a 4.25" bore in it.

When I was working at Eaton, we would call on Ford in Dearborn, and they had a racing version of the 6.2 in their lobby. The sign on it said it was making 700+ HP. It looked like a cobbled together development piece, with external dry-sump pumps and fabricated aluminum valve covers and intake manifold. The sign didn't say what displacement it was.
 
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I personally wouldn't put a 6.2 in a Mustang. The 5.0 Coyote is fairly light and you can get tons of reliable power from it in NA form, even more with boost or spray.
 
Thanks clinebarger. I was thinking it was probably VVT and didn't get an answer online that was definitive (due to my lousy searching ability). The reason I ask is I was thinking of upping the HP on my 97 F150 for its 300,000 mile birthday. It already has the 10.25" rear and 4R100 trans, but VVT would mean an ECM change with lots of wiring.
 
Originally Posted By: rslifkin
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
I can't see them going to a boosted V6 in big trucks, for starters they are CAFE exempt.


They wouldn't do it for the MPG, just for the flatter torque curve.


Fleet owners look at MPG even if the vehicle is CAFE exempt. Just look at how many diesel heavy duty vehicles were sold, even though gasoline engines we an option.
 
Speaking of the 5.0, based on the new truck lineup it seems like the 5.0 may be next on the list, but that's being replaced with the 3.5 ecoboost. Not sure what they would replace the 6.2 with.
 
Originally Posted By: artificialist
Originally Posted By: rslifkin
Originally Posted By: hattaresguy
I can't see them going to a boosted V6 in big trucks, for starters they are CAFE exempt.


They wouldn't do it for the MPG, just for the flatter torque curve.


Fleet owners look at MPG even if the vehicle is CAFE exempt. Just look at how many diesel heavy duty vehicles were sold, even though gasoline engines we an option.


Light power dense motors don't hold up as well in commercial use.

MPG's are only one aspect of fleet costs.
 
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