Nucleate boiling - :doh:

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' morning all...I just had a Homer Simpson :doh: moment...been working in power stations, steam cycle for a quarter century, and today read something so simple and correct....


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Nucleate Boiling: by allowing the boundary layer of the coolant jacket to operate at its boiling temperature, the heat transfer coefficient is enhanced, making the system more efficient at removing heat and allowing lower pump work through a lower flow requirement. Figure 2 shows the heat flux as a function of wall surface temperature. As the fluid near the surface begins to boil the heat flux is improved as illustrated by the change in gradient in the curves. In this condition, small bubbles of vapour form at the convective surface of the fluid. As the vapour forms it leaves the boundary layer and moves up into the bulk fluid. The bulk fluid being at a lower temperature, the vapour bubbles quickly condensate back into the fluid. It is important that this occurs and that a level of saturated boiling does not occur: in this case the bulk fluid temperature would be at boiling temperature and large pockets of vapour would form which could rapidly lead to coolant spill and catastrophic failure [10]. Very few engines are designed for nucleate boiling and it is often used as a safety margin. Lee and Cholewczynski [23] estimated that under severe driving conditions 60% of heat absorbing surfaces in the coolant jacket experienced nucleate boiling. This was estimated by looking at changes in temperatures at different coolant pressures. It is important to note that if nucleate boiling were to occur, this would need to be accounted for in CFD models to avoid inaccuracies [24]. In addition, it would be anticipated that components that did experience nucleate boiling would be relatively insensitive to bulk coolant temperature.


Paper on fuel efficiency in OTR transport.

When it comes to shifting heat, allowing nucleate boiling moves 20 times as much thermal energy as a 5C change in coolant temperature...as stated, a blanketting of steam (departure from nucleate boiling...boiler tubes last literally second in that case) is bad.
 
It's because of the latent heat of vaporization.

We discussed this in Nuclear classes I took in College. It's fine for the heat exchanger tubes.
 
Yep, certainly turtlevette.

Steam Generators need to create steam...the big ones that I work with (4.7 million lb/hr) need to have a circulation ratio of 4 (20 million lb/hour) to ensure that the boiling is nucleate, not film...film boiling, and the tubes overheat in seconds.
 
Yeah, it's around 2800psi/320C at boil, and superheated to 538C (1005F)...through the HP turbine, where the pressure drops to 580psi, then gets reheated back to 1005, to pass through the intermediate and low pressure turbines.
 
Yup, there's actually more to be learned in this area. We're doing some active work on bubble formation at close packed geometries where the bubbles can impinge upon another heat exchange surface. Interesting experimental design, imagery and phenomena.
 
Heat of vaporization/condensation changes when the pressure is changed - this applies to almost all substances if not all
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Originally Posted By: HosteenJorje
Babcock & Wilcox steam generator?


FW patents, but played with ICAL for a bit
 
Here is an example of nucleant boiling and what it does to metal surfaces.
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This is a warranty return, where it was determined the owner in Texas replaced the factory coolant with straight water.

What you are looking at, is the water jacket surface of an aluminum intake manifold. The passage is in the suction circuit of the water pump.

The combination of high temperatures, low boiling point of water, and the low pressure of water pump suction, produced nucleant boiling that pounded away at the water jacket surfaces until it broke through to the outside. Internal corrosion aided this process.

Using a proper mix of antifreeze/water in the coolant would prevent this from occurring.
 
That looks more like cavitation to me. It's similar but completely opposite. Nucleate boiling the fluid boils on the surface and the bubble condenses in the cooler fluid. Cavitation the fluid is boiling and the bubble collapses on the cooler surface causing exactly what you show there.
 
yes, put a kettle of water on the stove and watch the bubbles form on the bottom of the kettle but they don't get to the surface until the fluid is very near boiling temperature. nucleate boiling.

doiesn't destroy the kettle either.
 
Remember the ' steam ' cooling systems that were tried in aircraft back in the '30s ?
Supposedly lighter but a pack of trouble .
 
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