When considering oversized oil filters
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If it fits ..it fits. The things you want to look at is/are if it has some oddball bypass setting or if the gasket is way out of whack with spec. Make sure that the other attributes are comparable ..if both have ADBV's and whatnot.
What's it for? It would allow those reading the thread to tell you what worked for them ..or what didn't.
What's it for? It would allow those reading the thread to tell you what worked for them ..or what didn't.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
If it fits ..it fits. The things you want to look at is/are if it has some oddball bypass setting or if the gasket is way out of whack with spec. Make sure that the other attributes are comparable ..if both have ADBV's and whatnot.
What's it for? It would allow those reading the thread to tell you what worked for them ..or what didn't.
It's for a 2000 Camry 4 Cylinder engine. There are some Mobil 1 Oil Filters at Walmart for ~$8 but they don't have the M1-103's but only the M1-209s. From the Mobil 1 Website the specs are:
M1-103
3/4"-16 Thread
2.90 (74mm) Height
2.74 (70mm) OD
M1-209
3/4"-16 Thread
4.44 (113mm) Height
2.96 (75mm) OD
Originally Posted By: defektes
gasket size.
No mention of gasket size at the Mobile 1 website. I'll compare visually at Advance Auto maybe.....
If it fits ..it fits. The things you want to look at is/are if it has some oddball bypass setting or if the gasket is way out of whack with spec. Make sure that the other attributes are comparable ..if both have ADBV's and whatnot.
What's it for? It would allow those reading the thread to tell you what worked for them ..or what didn't.
It's for a 2000 Camry 4 Cylinder engine. There are some Mobil 1 Oil Filters at Walmart for ~$8 but they don't have the M1-103's but only the M1-209s. From the Mobil 1 Website the specs are:
M1-103
3/4"-16 Thread
2.90 (74mm) Height
2.74 (70mm) OD
M1-209
3/4"-16 Thread
4.44 (113mm) Height
2.96 (75mm) OD
Originally Posted By: defektes
gasket size.
No mention of gasket size at the Mobile 1 website. I'll compare visually at Advance Auto maybe.....
You can use a Ford FL1A filter (Wix 51515 or M1-301) if there's lots of space around the filter. Increases sump capacity by about .5 qts.
Ground clearance, clearance from anything that could touch it when the engine moves on the mounts.
Heat from headers/cats.
Warranty issues? (not on your 2000)
Quite a few things you have watch for if going to run a oversize filter.
Heat from headers/cats.
Warranty issues? (not on your 2000)
Quite a few things you have watch for if going to run a oversize filter.
always a good idea. only time no if it puts the filter into too close of a proximity of exhaust pipe.
My Camry, and yours, specs a WIX 51394. I use a 51396. Same filter specs, just a little longer. I have cut them open after as much as a nine month OCI, to find they still look great inside. All the filter this engine needs.
Part Number: 51394
UPC Number: 765809513945
Principal Application: GM (85-09), Daihatsu (88-92), Infiniti (91-96), Kawasaki Mules, Nissan (91-95), Toyota (80-09), Scion (04-09), Atlas-Copco, Briggs & Stratton, Caterpillar, Cub Cadet, Generac, John Deere, Kubota, New Holland
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 2.977
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233
Part Number: 51396
UPC Number: 765809513969
Principal Application: GM Vehicles (99-05), Geo (89-92), Toyota (88-09), Various Ford-New Holland Tractors, Suzuki (96-09), Suzuki Marine Engines
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.402
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233
Part Number: 51394
UPC Number: 765809513945
Principal Application: GM (85-09), Daihatsu (88-92), Infiniti (91-96), Kawasaki Mules, Nissan (91-95), Toyota (80-09), Scion (04-09), Atlas-Copco, Briggs & Stratton, Caterpillar, Cub Cadet, Generac, John Deere, Kubota, New Holland
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 2.977
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233
Part Number: 51396
UPC Number: 765809513969
Principal Application: GM Vehicles (99-05), Geo (89-92), Toyota (88-09), Various Ford-New Holland Tractors, Suzuki (96-09), Suzuki Marine Engines
All Applications
Style: Spin-On Lube Filter
Service: Lube
Type: Full Flow
Media: Paper
Height: 3.402
Outer Diameter Top: 2.685
Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed
Thread Size: 3/4-16
By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11
Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes
Burst Pressure-PSI: 400
Max Flow Rate: 7-9 GPM
Nominal Micron Rating: 21
Gasket Diameters
Number O.D. I.D. Thk.
Attached 2.475 2.173 0.233
Originally Posted By: sangyup81
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
If it fits ..it fits. The things you want to look at is/are if it has some oddball bypass setting or if the gasket is way out of whack with spec. Make sure that the other attributes are comparable ..if both have ADBV's and whatnot.
What's it for? It would allow those reading the thread to tell you what worked for them ..or what didn't.
It's for a 2000 Camry 4 Cylinder engine. There are some Mobil 1 Oil Filters at Walmart for ~$8 but they don't have the M1-103's but only the M1-209s. From the Mobil 1 Website the specs are:
M1-103
3/4"-16 Thread
2.90 (74mm) Height
2.74 (70mm) OD
M1-209
3/4"-16 Thread
4.44 (113mm) Height
2.96 (75mm) OD
Originally Posted By: defektes
gasket size.
No mention of gasket size at the Mobile 1 website. I'll compare visually at Advance Auto maybe.....
I just compared an M-103 and an M-209, it seems to be a big difference. Not only does it look huge, but I'd be worried about the gasket seating correctly. It very well may work, but it looked odd enough for me to not get the M-209 for my Prius, I'd trust the M-103 for up to 20k with Amsoil SSO.
Originally Posted By: Gary Allan
If it fits ..it fits. The things you want to look at is/are if it has some oddball bypass setting or if the gasket is way out of whack with spec. Make sure that the other attributes are comparable ..if both have ADBV's and whatnot.
What's it for? It would allow those reading the thread to tell you what worked for them ..or what didn't.
It's for a 2000 Camry 4 Cylinder engine. There are some Mobil 1 Oil Filters at Walmart for ~$8 but they don't have the M1-103's but only the M1-209s. From the Mobil 1 Website the specs are:
M1-103
3/4"-16 Thread
2.90 (74mm) Height
2.74 (70mm) OD
M1-209
3/4"-16 Thread
4.44 (113mm) Height
2.96 (75mm) OD
Originally Posted By: defektes
gasket size.
No mention of gasket size at the Mobile 1 website. I'll compare visually at Advance Auto maybe.....
I just compared an M-103 and an M-209, it seems to be a big difference. Not only does it look huge, but I'd be worried about the gasket seating correctly. It very well may work, but it looked odd enough for me to not get the M-209 for my Prius, I'd trust the M-103 for up to 20k with Amsoil SSO.
I tried the above on my 02 Camry 2AZFE. Awful rapping at start-up which gets worse during the OCI. Must be filter's position in relationship with the oil pump.
Go to the Wix website http://www.wixfilters.com/ and compare THEIR filters to each other.
Once you have another manufacturer's #, you can cross reference it on the website.
Compare THAT filter with the one that comes up when you locate the WIX filter that is listed for YOUR vehicle.
The WIX website lists the GASKET size as well as the threads.
From there, you can choose the filter brand you want to use.
Once you have another manufacturer's #, you can cross reference it on the website.
Compare THAT filter with the one that comes up when you locate the WIX filter that is listed for YOUR vehicle.
The WIX website lists the GASKET size as well as the threads.
From there, you can choose the filter brand you want to use.
The WIX website lists the 51396 filter for the 2002 Toyota Camry with the 2AZFE motor.
The 2002 Camry with the 1MZFE motor calls for the 51348.
My 2003 Sienna with the 1MZFE motor calls for the 51348 filter and I use the WIX 51516 filter.
The 2002 Camry with the 1MZFE motor calls for the 51348.
My 2003 Sienna with the 1MZFE motor calls for the 51348 filter and I use the WIX 51516 filter.
Originally Posted By: wiswind
Go to the Wix website http://www.wixfilters.com/ and compare THEIR filters to each other.
Thanks.
Interesting web site.
Got the info I needed.
Go to the Wix website http://www.wixfilters.com/ and compare THEIR filters to each other.
Thanks.
Interesting web site.
Got the info I needed.
It's for a 2000 Camry 4 Cylinder engine. There are some Mobil 1 Oil Filters at Walmart for ~$8 but they don't have the M1-103's but only the M1-209s. From the Mobil 1 Website the specs are:
M1-103
3/4"-16 Thread
2.90 (74mm) Height
2.74 (70mm) OD
M1-209
3/4"-16 Thread
4.44 (113mm) Height
2.96 (75mm) OD
Originally Posted By: defektes
gasket size.
No mention of gasket size at the Mobile 1 website. I'll compare visually at Advance Auto maybe..... [/quote]
You can use the Mobil 1 M1-209 filter on the Toyota Camry / Corolla engines, both 4- and 6-cylinder. Using this size filter increases the volume of oil in the sump by 0.27 quart (8.64 oz) over the M1-103 (or other manufacturer's equivalent - Purolator PureOne 14476), and increases your filter surface area significantly (almost double, although I am not exactly sure of the sq. in. difference). The O.D. of the filter gasket is a bit larger than the M1-103 (Purolator PureOne 14476 / 14477), but still fits on the mating surface well enough to prevent leaks. I am not making this statement based on anything I have been told, but instead on what I am actually using an oversized filter (same size as M1-209) right now on my 2006 Toyota Corolla (1zzfe) and my girlfriend's Camry (5sfe), and have been doing for a while.
M1-103
3/4"-16 Thread
2.90 (74mm) Height
2.74 (70mm) OD
M1-209
3/4"-16 Thread
4.44 (113mm) Height
2.96 (75mm) OD
Originally Posted By: defektes
gasket size.
No mention of gasket size at the Mobile 1 website. I'll compare visually at Advance Auto maybe..... [/quote]
You can use the Mobil 1 M1-209 filter on the Toyota Camry / Corolla engines, both 4- and 6-cylinder. Using this size filter increases the volume of oil in the sump by 0.27 quart (8.64 oz) over the M1-103 (or other manufacturer's equivalent - Purolator PureOne 14476), and increases your filter surface area significantly (almost double, although I am not exactly sure of the sq. in. difference). The O.D. of the filter gasket is a bit larger than the M1-103 (Purolator PureOne 14476 / 14477), but still fits on the mating surface well enough to prevent leaks. I am not making this statement based on anything I have been told, but instead on what I am actually using an oversized filter (same size as M1-209) right now on my 2006 Toyota Corolla (1zzfe) and my girlfriend's Camry (5sfe), and have been doing for a while.
Originally Posted By: unDummy
Same here. 5sfe is a sludge monster. Been using the FL400s/FL2005/Ph3600/PL20195.... for years now. I figure each extra ounce of oil capacity is one ounce further away from sludge.
LOL, the 5sfe is not at all a sludge monster, do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion, dummy.
Same here. 5sfe is a sludge monster. Been using the FL400s/FL2005/Ph3600/PL20195.... for years now. I figure each extra ounce of oil capacity is one ounce further away from sludge.
LOL, the 5sfe is not at all a sludge monster, do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion, dummy.
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