Printer Ink cartridges?

[hotwheels]

Originally Posted By: daman
How does the reseter work?


It's a little plastic gadget with some internal electronics and external contacts for the cartridge. You press the cartridge onto the resetter until an LED lights up, which confirms the cartridge has been reset. Some printers allow resetting by pushing printer buttons in a specific sequence.

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[daman]

Interesting..

 

[JustinH]

I have a 49 dollar black brother laser printer.

Remanufactured toner is 14 dollars on ebay.

I buy one a year.

Also had to replace the drum in this printer, it was 15 dollars.

Any color printing goes to walmart.

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted By: hotwheels
I don't want to breathe toner particles, so I'm using a monochrome Epson Workforce WF M1030 inkjet printer. Haven't found a way to refill and reset the single cartridge, so I buy inexpensive third party cartridges.

hotwheels


Look inside your inkjet. You'll find ink residue everywhere so you're breathing vaporized ink...

Neither will most likely kill you unless you hover over it 24/7.

 

[hotwheels]

Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: hotwheels
I don't want to breathe toner particles, so I'm using a monochrome Epson Workforce WF M1030 inkjet printer. Haven't found a way to refill and reset the single cartridge, so I buy inexpensive third party cartridges.

hotwheels


Look inside your inkjet. You'll find ink residue everywhere so you're breathing vaporized ink...

Neither will most likely kill you unless you hover over it 24/7.


I have a pronounced sensitivity to toner particles from years of exposure in an office setting. I have no issues with inkjet inks. The ink particles in pigmented ink do not get in the air, and inkjet dyes have no particles. The toner particles affect the body similar to asbestos.

hotwheels

 

[Subdued]

I was a printer mechanic for 15 years. I question the validity of that statement.

 

[doitmyself]

Originally Posted By: hotwheels
The toner particles affect the body similar to asbestos. hotwheels

There seems to be only small amount of information on the interweb about this. However, this following account is especially alarming: http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/interactive/discussion/Inhaling-Laser-Toner---Cancer-Risk-t52965-f45.html

"Later I was quite worried about the implications of breathing in the toner dust because it has a certain odour, and I could tell that I was breathing it in continuously for an hour or so...... so therefore if it sticks to the inside of my lungs, will it ever come out?"...

"To make matters worse, the next day I accepted a cigarette from a mate, and when smoking I felt a pain in the chest, but I carried on smoking"....

"The wikipedia article suggests toner is similar to asbestos......I will never ever bother with refilling a laser printer now because even despite saving about £30 you are putting your life at risk."

 

[Subdued]

I feel like there would be a heck of a lot more info on this if it was true

 

[Quattro Pete]

An older piece on the subject...

http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1650602,00.html

 

[hotwheels]

As always, ignorance is bliss and remaining uninformed a choice.

hotwheels

 

[hotwheels]

My above post was not directed at daman, but at those who expect breathing carbon nanoparticles to not affect ones health and who are unwilling to do any research into the matter.

hotwheels

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted By: hotwheels

I have a pronounced sensitivity to toner particles from years of exposure in an office setting. I have no issues with inkjet inks. The ink particles in pigmented ink do not get in the air, and inkjet dyes have no particles. The toner particles affect the body similar to asbestos.


Just a bone of contention. Black inkjet ink is generally pigment based. And the colors are increasingly becoming pigmented as they fade a lot less than dye.

All but Epson vaporize the ink and deposit it on the paper. Epson uses piezoelectric elements to push the ink through.
http://www.image-specialists.com/ink_int_injet_printer.aspx

As far as toner emissions and health - interesting. Do you have any links?

 

[Subdued]

Originally Posted By: hotwheels
As always, ignorance is bliss and remaining uninformed a choice.

hotwheels

I'm having a hard time finding an actual source about the dangers of toner. I see a lot of 3rd hand info and references to a wiki, but seriously, any bozo can edit a wiki.

I would like some hard evidence, and unless you actually have it, you're also one of the blissful ignorant.

 

[brandini]

I don't know about a hazard, but I have a coworker that's allergic to it. We're the IT department so she has to wear gloves when she works on a laser printer.

 

[Subdued]

ugh

 

[brandini]

I'm about to pull the trigger on a set of refillables from inkproducts after this next full set of colors dies. I'll post here with the experience once that time comes.

The ink I'll be using will be from a small company in vermont that does art prints and is the only one i've found that uses the encapsulated pigment inks like OEM Epson DuraBrite Ultra does.

Video of cartridge process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjsdYeSEDqY
Inks: http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/it.I/id.270/.f
What that ink company can do with an epson printer converted to carbon black for B&W art prints: http://www.piezography.com/PiezoPress/bl...n-to-epson-abw/

 

[daman]

Confused, are these empty and you can refill them?

 

[brandini]

Originally Posted By: daman
Confused, are these empty and you can refill them?

There are refillable cartridges, and there are continuous ink systems that do large bottles directly feeding tubes.

The former is better for everyday use as pigmented inks should be agitated so they have less of a chance of settling.

The latter is for those that really crank out the pages so they don't have to worry about the settling since they're using the ink so quickly, but the downside is most printers have to be propped open and a sensor capped in order to route the tubes and still print with the hood popped, and you're putting more stress on the print system if hoses aren't routed perfectly.

Most printers with stationary inks mount the feed lines on the same plane as the print head either in front of or behind the print head where aftermarket systems come from above and introduce gravity feeding issues as well.

 

[daman]

UPDATE..

pulled the trigger on some cheap knock offs a week ago from flea-bay and so far so good they plugged in, the printer recognized them and for now all seems good but time will tell in the long run.