Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
This is a feel good mod, no real reasons to do it. Just feelings and guesses. The above is a perfect illustration.
With our engines in demanding fleet use lasting 500k miles on that lil ole factory filter I can't see the benefits.
I really don't need engine life this long as it is, perhaps on specific engines that have shortcomings in their oiling setup this could help.
It's a solution in search of a problem...
Agreed.
Now if a larger filter is available with the exact same bypass setting and identical construction with size being the only difference then I see no harm in using one,in fact it should reduce the frequency of filter changes due to an increase in holding capacity.
That being said if the larger filter is different in the manner in which it operates then it's an irresponsible gamble that may incur unexpected or unprepared for differences that weren't ever considered when the engine went into service.
For example a hi-po hemi in an SRT has an engineer specify a by-pass valves actuation point at a very specific point which has been qualified by testing and proven to be important if by some chance there is a problem.
So there is a filter that's larger in size but the bypass setting is very different due to operating in a different application so using it will change the engines known behaviour given that specific failure so if by some fluke the bypass setting compromised the function of the engines failsafe then catastrophic failure results.
A failure that was avoidable had the owner used the product specified by the manufacturer for the specific application.
I admit I frankenbrew oil all the time but as far as filters go I figure it's built the way it's built because the oem explored various different options and they decided that it needs to have specific characteristics based on the application.
I assume that it wasn't an afterthought and they specify values relative to the specific engine.
I have learned that some things don't require me to question or second guess the recommendation.
For example the Chev LS engines. My 6.0 has what I feel is a lawn mower oil filter at most,yet using these little cans these engines last almost indefinitely with proper maintenance.
Would I gain anything by using a larger filter such as longer engine life of longer service intervals. I doubt it. How many miles can you add to indefinite.
And I run those ity bitty things for 20000 miles yet even at the end of the fci oil pressure behaves the same as when the filter was new.
No brainer to me. If you want a bigger filter just buy a top tier synthetic media filter. They have more holding capacity when compared to the oem and are built exactly the same as far as details.
Best of both worlds.
This is a feel good mod, no real reasons to do it. Just feelings and guesses. The above is a perfect illustration.
With our engines in demanding fleet use lasting 500k miles on that lil ole factory filter I can't see the benefits.
I really don't need engine life this long as it is, perhaps on specific engines that have shortcomings in their oiling setup this could help.
It's a solution in search of a problem...
Agreed.
Now if a larger filter is available with the exact same bypass setting and identical construction with size being the only difference then I see no harm in using one,in fact it should reduce the frequency of filter changes due to an increase in holding capacity.
That being said if the larger filter is different in the manner in which it operates then it's an irresponsible gamble that may incur unexpected or unprepared for differences that weren't ever considered when the engine went into service.
For example a hi-po hemi in an SRT has an engineer specify a by-pass valves actuation point at a very specific point which has been qualified by testing and proven to be important if by some chance there is a problem.
So there is a filter that's larger in size but the bypass setting is very different due to operating in a different application so using it will change the engines known behaviour given that specific failure so if by some fluke the bypass setting compromised the function of the engines failsafe then catastrophic failure results.
A failure that was avoidable had the owner used the product specified by the manufacturer for the specific application.
I admit I frankenbrew oil all the time but as far as filters go I figure it's built the way it's built because the oem explored various different options and they decided that it needs to have specific characteristics based on the application.
I assume that it wasn't an afterthought and they specify values relative to the specific engine.
I have learned that some things don't require me to question or second guess the recommendation.
For example the Chev LS engines. My 6.0 has what I feel is a lawn mower oil filter at most,yet using these little cans these engines last almost indefinitely with proper maintenance.
Would I gain anything by using a larger filter such as longer engine life of longer service intervals. I doubt it. How many miles can you add to indefinite.
And I run those ity bitty things for 20000 miles yet even at the end of the fci oil pressure behaves the same as when the filter was new.
No brainer to me. If you want a bigger filter just buy a top tier synthetic media filter. They have more holding capacity when compared to the oem and are built exactly the same as far as details.
Best of both worlds.
