Why should one group be in a protected class and another not if we are all equal?
Isn't your point that just because someone finds anothers behavior offensive, they don't have the right to deny them service in a public accommodation simply because they are offended?
If that's the case, why can anyone be denied service?
Your mention of protected class demonstrates the flaw in your argument. If you are picking and choosing protected classes, that's a form of discrimination.
I thought discrimination was bad. You are arguing that your form of discrimination, only certain classes are protected is ok, but if others practice discrimination you deem bad, they should be punished.
You undermine your own argument by suggesting the notion of protected classes and suggesting there are others that are not protected.
Double Standard!
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: javacontour
So you want a society where it's ok for a Klansman to force a black lawyer to represent him in court?
You want a society where it's ok for a convicted Nazi war criminal to force a concentration camp survivor business owner to provide them a service because their business is a public, for profit, accommodation?
You want a society where it's ok for a 9/11 widow to have to serve meals to someone who says death to American and good on the 9/11 pilots and their "righteous" work simply because they own a restaurant?
There is a difference between being born black and between choosing to marry. One doesn't get to choose to be born. But anyone who marries is choosing who they marry and who they ask to participate in their event.
Race isn't a choice. Choosing who you will use to cater your wedding is a choice. Those who insist on forcing others to provide services against their deeply held beliefs demonstrate their hypocrisy in the matter. They resisted society telling them who they "should" marry, but then have no problem telling society they "should" be happy to provide their services at their wedding.
It's a double standard.
That's a ridiculous argument, last I checked klansman and convicts weren't in protected classes. Choosing who you marry certainly is a choice, being gay isn't. Times are changing, this train has left the station and isn't going back.
Isn't your point that just because someone finds anothers behavior offensive, they don't have the right to deny them service in a public accommodation simply because they are offended?
If that's the case, why can anyone be denied service?
Your mention of protected class demonstrates the flaw in your argument. If you are picking and choosing protected classes, that's a form of discrimination.
I thought discrimination was bad. You are arguing that your form of discrimination, only certain classes are protected is ok, but if others practice discrimination you deem bad, they should be punished.
You undermine your own argument by suggesting the notion of protected classes and suggesting there are others that are not protected.
Double Standard!
Originally Posted By: dishdude
Originally Posted By: javacontour
So you want a society where it's ok for a Klansman to force a black lawyer to represent him in court?
You want a society where it's ok for a convicted Nazi war criminal to force a concentration camp survivor business owner to provide them a service because their business is a public, for profit, accommodation?
You want a society where it's ok for a 9/11 widow to have to serve meals to someone who says death to American and good on the 9/11 pilots and their "righteous" work simply because they own a restaurant?
There is a difference between being born black and between choosing to marry. One doesn't get to choose to be born. But anyone who marries is choosing who they marry and who they ask to participate in their event.
Race isn't a choice. Choosing who you will use to cater your wedding is a choice. Those who insist on forcing others to provide services against their deeply held beliefs demonstrate their hypocrisy in the matter. They resisted society telling them who they "should" marry, but then have no problem telling society they "should" be happy to provide their services at their wedding.
It's a double standard.
That's a ridiculous argument, last I checked klansman and convicts weren't in protected classes. Choosing who you marry certainly is a choice, being gay isn't. Times are changing, this train has left the station and isn't going back.