AirAsia flight missing.
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So sad. It's a Malaysia based airline.
From the BBC:
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An official with the transport ministry, Hadi Mustofa, told local media the plane lost contact over the Java Sea, which lies between Surabaya and Singapore.
He said the plane had asked for an unusual route before it lost contact.
From the BBC:
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An official with the transport ministry, Hadi Mustofa, told local media the plane lost contact over the Java Sea, which lies between Surabaya and Singapore.
He said the plane had asked for an unusual route before it lost contact.
I just got a news alert on the cell phone a few minutes ago. Talk about weird.
Good topic for discussion for an upcoming Coast-to-Coast show.
Good topic for discussion for an upcoming Coast-to-Coast show.
Originally Posted By: paulo57509
I just got a news alert on the cell phone a few minutes ago. Talk about weird.
Good topic for discussion for an upcoming Coast-to-Coast show.
It would be if Coast to Coast had any credibility other than entertainment value.
I just got a news alert on the cell phone a few minutes ago. Talk about weird.
Good topic for discussion for an upcoming Coast-to-Coast show.
It would be if Coast to Coast had any credibility other than entertainment value.
That's too bad....included in the passenger list are 16 children and one infant.
What is up with all these Asian flights going missing or getting shut down? You'd think they'd put some decent tracking devices on them by now. It's 2014 people! I can find my $600 iPhone ANYWHERE in the world from my laptop computer but they can't track a 100+ million dollar plane that is transporting human lives?! Unbelievable and unacceptable, in my opinion.
This is such a bizarre and sad story.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: paulo57509
I just got a news alert on the cell phone a few minutes ago. Talk about weird.
Good topic for discussion for an upcoming Coast-to-Coast show.
It would be if Coast to Coast had any credibility other than entertainment value.
Doesn't stop the tin foil hat crowd. Maybe someone will use a Hollywood action movie as fact like the other thread.
Originally Posted By: paulo57509
I just got a news alert on the cell phone a few minutes ago. Talk about weird.
Good topic for discussion for an upcoming Coast-to-Coast show.
It would be if Coast to Coast had any credibility other than entertainment value.
Doesn't stop the tin foil hat crowd. Maybe someone will use a Hollywood action movie as fact like the other thread.
Originally Posted By: Artem
What is up with all these Asian flights going missing or getting shut down? You'd think they'd put some decent tracking devices on them by now. It's 2014 people! I can find my $600 iPhone ANYWHERE in the world from my laptop computer but they can't track a 100+ million dollar plane that is transporting human lives?! Unbelievable and unacceptable, in my opinion.
Astro14 already addressed this- the short answer is it would be pretty expensive to equip them and set up the tracking network in the vast expanses of ocean that they fly over. Land based radar only goes out so far and sea based (military) radar is not limitless and only sporadic in their placement. Also classified at times. It's a big world out there!
Also- no, you can't find your phone anywhere in the world. Only places with cell reception. If you put that thing on a raft in the middle of the Pacific or Indian ocean, it's a gonner for sure. No infrastructure, no reception, no way to track it.
What is up with all these Asian flights going missing or getting shut down? You'd think they'd put some decent tracking devices on them by now. It's 2014 people! I can find my $600 iPhone ANYWHERE in the world from my laptop computer but they can't track a 100+ million dollar plane that is transporting human lives?! Unbelievable and unacceptable, in my opinion.
Astro14 already addressed this- the short answer is it would be pretty expensive to equip them and set up the tracking network in the vast expanses of ocean that they fly over. Land based radar only goes out so far and sea based (military) radar is not limitless and only sporadic in their placement. Also classified at times. It's a big world out there!
Also- no, you can't find your phone anywhere in the world. Only places with cell reception. If you put that thing on a raft in the middle of the Pacific or Indian ocean, it's a gonner for sure. No infrastructure, no reception, no way to track it.
Originally Posted By: Artem
What is up with all these Asian flights going missing or getting shut down? You'd think they'd put some decent tracking devices on them by now.
It has transponders....unless in turned into another #370 Ghost Ship?
What is up with all these Asian flights going missing or getting shut down? You'd think they'd put some decent tracking devices on them by now.
It has transponders....unless in turned into another #370 Ghost Ship?
Originally Posted By: The_Eric
Originally Posted By: Artem
What is up with all these Asian flights going missing or getting shut down? You'd think they'd put some decent tracking devices on them by now. It's 2014 people! I can find my $600 iPhone ANYWHERE in the world from my laptop computer but they can't track a 100+ million dollar plane that is transporting human lives?! Unbelievable and unacceptable, in my opinion.
Astro14 already addressed this- the short answer is it would be pretty expensive to equip them and set up the tracking network in the vast expanses of ocean that they fly over. Land based radar only goes out so far and sea based (military) radar is not limitless and only sporadic in their placement. Also classified at times. It's a big world out there!
Also- no, you can't find your phone anywhere in the world. Only places with cell reception. If you put that thing on a raft in the middle of the Pacific or Indian ocean, it's a gonner for sure. No infrastructure, no reception, no way to track it.
Good point...I didn't realize radar is limited! Transponders wouldn't matter...they would need something satellite based.
Originally Posted By: Artem
What is up with all these Asian flights going missing or getting shut down? You'd think they'd put some decent tracking devices on them by now. It's 2014 people! I can find my $600 iPhone ANYWHERE in the world from my laptop computer but they can't track a 100+ million dollar plane that is transporting human lives?! Unbelievable and unacceptable, in my opinion.
Astro14 already addressed this- the short answer is it would be pretty expensive to equip them and set up the tracking network in the vast expanses of ocean that they fly over. Land based radar only goes out so far and sea based (military) radar is not limitless and only sporadic in their placement. Also classified at times. It's a big world out there!
Also- no, you can't find your phone anywhere in the world. Only places with cell reception. If you put that thing on a raft in the middle of the Pacific or Indian ocean, it's a gonner for sure. No infrastructure, no reception, no way to track it.
Good point...I didn't realize radar is limited! Transponders wouldn't matter...they would need something satellite based.
Phew! Finally another topic for CNN!
They were trying to get Ebola started again.
They were trying to get Ebola started again.
Originally Posted By: Blaze
Good point...I didn't realize radar is limited! Transponders wouldn't matter...they would need something satellite based.
Most long-haul airliners already have satellite-based location reporting systems, but they typically only send location every ten minutes or so, as satellite bandwidth is expensive. AF447, for example, sent its location a few minutes before it crashed in the Atlantic, and that was used to begin the search for debris. MH370 couldn't send its position, as someone or something had disabled that system.
In this case, the aircraft was probably still in range of ground-based receivers, so probably wouldn't have been using the satellite system, if it was even installed on a short-range airliner.
Good point...I didn't realize radar is limited! Transponders wouldn't matter...they would need something satellite based.
Most long-haul airliners already have satellite-based location reporting systems, but they typically only send location every ten minutes or so, as satellite bandwidth is expensive. AF447, for example, sent its location a few minutes before it crashed in the Atlantic, and that was used to begin the search for debris. MH370 couldn't send its position, as someone or something had disabled that system.
In this case, the aircraft was probably still in range of ground-based receivers, so probably wouldn't have been using the satellite system, if it was even installed on a short-range airliner.
Guess I will stick to driving. All I ever would want to go is in US/Canada.
Originally Posted By: Marco620
Guess I will stick to driving. All I ever would want to go is in US/Canada.
I quote: "The annual risk of being killed in a plane crash for the average American is about 1 in 11 million. On that basis, the risk looks pretty small. Compare that, for example, to the annual risk of being killed in a motor vehicle crash for the average American, which is about 1 in 5,000."
Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/how-risky-is-flying.html
Admittedly, the chances of surviving a car crash are much better than the chances of surviving an airplane crash.
hotwheels
Guess I will stick to driving. All I ever would want to go is in US/Canada.
I quote: "The annual risk of being killed in a plane crash for the average American is about 1 in 11 million. On that basis, the risk looks pretty small. Compare that, for example, to the annual risk of being killed in a motor vehicle crash for the average American, which is about 1 in 5,000."
Source: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/space/how-risky-is-flying.html
Admittedly, the chances of surviving a car crash are much better than the chances of surviving an airplane crash.
hotwheels
That's sad. Lets see if they find this one.
Originally Posted By: CKN
Why is it always Asian Airlines? Are they still looking for the other one?
I want to hear any and all conspiracies.
Tin-foil hats we have? "Never let a good crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel
Why is it always Asian Airlines? Are they still looking for the other one?
I want to hear any and all conspiracies.
Tin-foil hats we have? "Never let a good crisis go to waste." - Rahm Emanuel
Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: paulo57509
I just got a news alert on the cell phone a few minutes ago. Talk about weird.
Good topic for discussion for an upcoming Coast-to-Coast show.
It would be if Coast to Coast had any credibility other than entertainment value.
BALIwood movie... it's in Iran.
Doesn't stop the tin foil hat crowd. Maybe someone will use a Hollywood action movie as fact like the other thread.
BALIwood.
They gave the plane to the Shah.
Originally Posted By: andrewg
Originally Posted By: paulo57509
I just got a news alert on the cell phone a few minutes ago. Talk about weird.
Good topic for discussion for an upcoming Coast-to-Coast show.
It would be if Coast to Coast had any credibility other than entertainment value.
BALIwood movie... it's in Iran.
Doesn't stop the tin foil hat crowd. Maybe someone will use a Hollywood action movie as fact like the other thread.
BALIwood.
They gave the plane to the Shah.
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