Hello all, hoping you can help me out with something. I've been a 2-stroke dirt bike and snowmobile rider for 15 years, and starting about 5 yrs ago I got serious about my oil selections and was always careful to purchase at least "JASO FC" oil for my toys. I've felt good about this until last week...when I reviewed the official JASO list of certified oils (found at link below)...
http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/2T_EV_LIST.pdf
Much to my sad surprise, the majority of 2 stroke oils I have been using that say "meet or exceeds JASO FC standards" on the bottle are NOT ON THE LIST. These include (but are not limited to):
- MasterPro 2-Cycle Sport Oil, claiming JASO FC Certification (sold at O'Reilly Auto)
- Lucas Semi-Synthetic 2 Cycle Oil, claiming to meet JASO FC & FD Standards
- Maxima Racing Snowmobile Tundra Oil, claiming to meet or exceed JASO FC
- Spectro Oils (multiple) claiming either of JASO FB or FC
- Shaeffer's 9006 Full Synthetic 2 Cycle, claiming to meet JASO FC & FD Standards
- I'm sure there are many more, a simple google search finds many with these claims that aren't on the JASO list at all either
Are these manufacturers simply putting this on the bottle with no testing so that I will buy it? Even though it is not certified? Who is determining that it meets JASO requirements if JASO isn't? Are these oils [censored] or do they really live up to their claims that they meet these standards? Has anyone done any testing on them?
Hoping someone has some answers that make some sense. I know I shouldn't believe everything I read on a bottle of oil, but claiming specific standards/certifications that simply haven't been obtained seems pretty low & shady. Thanks in advance for anyone's opinion.
http://www.jalos.or.jp/onfile/pdf/2T_EV_LIST.pdf
Much to my sad surprise, the majority of 2 stroke oils I have been using that say "meet or exceeds JASO FC standards" on the bottle are NOT ON THE LIST. These include (but are not limited to):
- MasterPro 2-Cycle Sport Oil, claiming JASO FC Certification (sold at O'Reilly Auto)
- Lucas Semi-Synthetic 2 Cycle Oil, claiming to meet JASO FC & FD Standards
- Maxima Racing Snowmobile Tundra Oil, claiming to meet or exceed JASO FC
- Spectro Oils (multiple) claiming either of JASO FB or FC
- Shaeffer's 9006 Full Synthetic 2 Cycle, claiming to meet JASO FC & FD Standards
- I'm sure there are many more, a simple google search finds many with these claims that aren't on the JASO list at all either
Are these manufacturers simply putting this on the bottle with no testing so that I will buy it? Even though it is not certified? Who is determining that it meets JASO requirements if JASO isn't? Are these oils [censored] or do they really live up to their claims that they meet these standards? Has anyone done any testing on them?
Hoping someone has some answers that make some sense. I know I shouldn't believe everything I read on a bottle of oil, but claiming specific standards/certifications that simply haven't been obtained seems pretty low & shady. Thanks in advance for anyone's opinion.