Originally Posted By: IndyIan
Originally Posted By: dave1251
2008 one of the years the U.S. contained the battlefront to Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, and a few other places.
Now? Thanks to procrastination and a very huge strategic error the battlefront has started to spread to the U.S and her allies, including a very loyal neighbor to the north. At least Canada along with U.K. has leader to call a spade a spade.
I personally enjoy your nice little childish banter at the end of your post. Considering my little brother whom is batty due to PTSD from surviving an IED that killed his LT. on his first deployment and on his second deployment to Iraq he had the horrifying honor of holding his dying friend in his arms in the aftermath of a raid to clear a building.
Less than 10 years later due to campaign promises and misguided liberal ideals of KUMBYA now ISIS has gained considerable power and has waged war on the fronts of Iraq and Syria, Western Europe, and North America.
You may call the lone wolf's loons and I will not disagree. The loons have taken the cause of ISIS because of the success of ISIS and the success of ISIS has made the cause of ISIS a creditable cause.
I am sorry for your brother's experiences, and its for people like him that we need to figure out a better way to deal with the middle east and extreme islam. We won militarily in Iraq and the rest, but that's not a solution in itself obviously. Just like blowing up a few Toyota's and some guys with beards now isn't going to fix the problem for the long term either.
Going forward, I think we have to decide to either commit to hard work of rebuilding a society after a military intervention(the easy part), or don't get involved militarily and try to help people through other means.
Also I think most of the current middle east problems are caused by US foreign policy being determined by business interests. Going forward I think with new energy tech and sources, there's no need to mess around in that area at all anymore. Iran, Syria, Iraq could easily defeat ISIS themselves, let them do it or not, it really won't make any difference to us if we keep our hands clean of it.
I care more for your brother than I do for the people of Iraq. We had NO business going to Iraq and it was all based on lies. All it got us are more enemies and lot of dead/wounded citizens and lot more dead Iraqis. It deeply saddens me every time I see flag at half mast. we need to let these people figure out their own destiny and stay out of it for the sake of own citizens. Remind me again how many members of our fine congress have their kids serving or on the battlefield?
It is easy to send someone else's brother, son, sister, father off to war.
Terrorism = the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of a religious, political, or ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (e.g., neutral military personnel or civilians). Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war.
We are oblivious to terrorism when it happens somewhere else or the victims are non-anglo saxon.
How many of you know who the LTTE terrorists are?
They have undertaken more suicide bombing than ALL the terrorist organization of the world combined.
A lot of these members are living in Canada and most of violence in Toronto can be attributed to some of these terrorists.
I tell you the story of a Michigan militia member john braintumor. john does not acknowledge any authority. john never had a SSN till he developed a brain tumor and needed to see a doctor on the tax payers dime.
john would spend his entire visit talking about paranoia around the federal govt tracking citizen (mind you this was before all the leaks) and even cut off a street traffic light and brought to doctor's office to prove the presence of a bar-code that used to track from satellites.
Anyway, how should be term john? a right wing reform christian nut job terrorist? or a deeply sick individual who needs treatment.
In an irony of life john's neurologist, who operated on john saved his life, is a muslim guy from pakistan.
We use our tax money to arm/train these organizations like ISIS, alqueda. We give more to fight them.