Originally Posted By: Nickdfresh
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
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I'm guessing your point is that because Justin Bourque was able to commit these acts against the RCMP, that it somehow works to marginalize the nature of what is being discussed?...
No. Guess again...
My point is that people in the Canadian security forces are just as dead irregardless of who did what and why. In fact, more were killed by said **** wackjob and he was apparently more effective at carrying out his agenda than the murderer of the unfortunate soldier.
I seems here that certain murders and painfully ignored here and others are played up by pants-wetters with some political agenda seeking to end that bane of humanity that is political correctness. Such as, there is a said nutjob running around Pennsylvania playing a "game" with police after ambushing two State Troopers and murdering one of them, yet that case is completely ignored here. It's ignored out of selective amnesia and these sorts of events are rare and not really worth the emotive extremes people are advocating here...
I think it is the group/collective thing combined with the media coverage, which is again combined with the political side of things. The "terrorism" stuff gets hyped up the wazoo, gets made into a huge boogeyman that is larger than life and these acts, even if, when viewed in comparison to others, seem minor, carry much more weight because of what is attached too them, be it ISIS, Al-Qaeda....etc.
They are hyped as a sign of things to come not only by those advocating the acts but also by our own, and it is easy to see them viewed that way. One side is threatening to do "horrible things", then something happens and it is "proof", even if, using your own metric, it really wasn't anywhere near as horrific as recent events that lack the same political/religious ties.
I think a decent analogy might be of a balloon. You have this big "terrorist balloon" that we'll ascribe to ISIS for the sake of this discussion, and it is viewed as that by society, pushed as that by ISIS, and pandered as that by our politicians and media. Ergo, in everybody's mind, we have this big balloon. In that balloon is "bad stuff" and every once and a while, the fingers holding the bad stuff in the balloon are loosened ever so slightly and some of the "bad stuff" comes out. And we know there is more of it. The whole balloon is full of it! The guys who made the balloon tell us so, our own government tells us so, so we are scared of the balloon and what's in it far more than the single random malicious events around us perpetrated by our own people because those people don't have a balloon, they only have themselves and when they are gone, that's it.
So do we do something about the balloon, or do we continue to allow the bad stuff to happen and just deal with it as it comes? That's the current divide about our role in all of this, our involvement in dealing with Extreme Islam....etc. At least in Canada. These things "don't happen in Canada", they are supposed to happen to you guys with all your guns and violence
At least that's the general mindset up here. And our PM is blamed for "Americanizing" Canada and this being the result.
I believe something needs to be done to stop the backyard curating of extremists/terrorists in North America but I don't know how that is accomplished. And at the same time we are at war with those these people wish to stand with/identify with them, which, as identified by my fellow canuck earlier in the thread, works to breed more of them.
I do believe it will come to a head at some point, I think that's inevitable. And I also think a lot of innocent people will suffer for that.
