Motor Trend Picks 2015 Honda CR-V as SUV OTY

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On the negative side, there are no power outlets of any type in the rear seat or cargo areas; the optional power tailgate is driven by a motor that occupies a giant goiter on the driver's side D-pillar (the strut mounted screw jacks are state-of-the-art); and as Evans noted, "There's a lot of wind and road noise on the freeway -- louder than most of the other vehicles here."

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/suv/.../#ixzz3GPtSAsfD


That's sounds pretty bad too me, but they still rate it #1.

Fishy stuff!
 
Just watched a review of one of these, looks like a great option. Not a fan of CVT's as far as the unknown reliability factor.
 
I have taken MT for almost thirty years, but the magazine has changed so much that I can't find anything relevant to me in it anymore so will not renew my subscription.
 
For COTY/TOTY it has to be a new model. Not a lot of competition then. When you look at the history of the award it's not so much praise, but a reason to put a new vehicle on the cover of the rag.

There aren't going to be a ton of body on frame SUV's over the next few years, get used to this.

Hard to take people seriously who say some other vehicle is better than the CRV when no one here has driven the new model... funny to read though. Seriously, can people at least wait to see something in person before having an opinion of it (or at least until they share it).
 
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MT says the CVT "keeps revs in the sweet spot and doesn't fake shift like Outback and Rogue"

Bravo, someone knows how to program a CVT.
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Originally Posted By: supton
Things look a bit tight under that hood.


It looks slightly tighter than my 2005 which is not the easiest thing to work on. I had to have my mechanic replace the accessory belt as I couldn't (and didn't have) get the wrench down in there to release the tensioner.
 
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MT says the CVT "keeps revs in the sweet spot and doesn't fake shift like Outback and Rogue"

Bravo, someone knows how to program a CVT.
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I was happy to hear that too!
 
Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
MT says the CVT "keeps revs in the sweet spot and doesn't fake shift like Outback and Rogue"

Bravo, someone knows how to program a CVT.
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How is it when Nissan, Ford, Subaru (I think Subie) programs their CVT's to hold revs and let the car accelerate, it's berated for rubber band feel and annoying. When the almighty Honda does it, it's the best thing since sliced bread! The whole point of a CVT is to get the engine to the sweet spot (economy/performance/whatever) and keep it there.

I rented an Altima/CVT once - perfectly fine combination.
 
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Originally Posted By: BearZDefect
MT says the CVT "keeps revs in the sweet spot and doesn't fake shift like Outback and Rogue"

Bravo, someone knows how to program a CVT.
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How is it when Nissan, Ford, Subaru (I think Subie) programs their CVT's to hold revs and let the car accelerate, it's berated for rubber band feel and annoying. When the almighty Honda does it, it's the best thing since sliced bread! The whole point of a CVT is to get the engine to the sweet spot (economy/performance/whatever) and keep it there.

I rented an Altima/CVT once - perfectly fine combination.


My guess is that this impression is highly reviewer-dependant. If I press down on the gas and the engine speed rises, it had better be in lock-step with actual vehicle speed. Otherwise I don't like it.
 
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How is it when Nissan, Ford, Subaru (I think Subie) programs their CVT's to hold revs and let the car accelerate, it's berated for rubber band feel and annoying...

I haven't criticized any CVT for holding a steady RPM when given a steady go pedal input.

When I test drove Nissan Altima and Rogue in recent years, they were very inconsistent with engine RPM - it would flare up to 3,000 RPM at light throttle for no good reason. Then other times it would flare up over 2,000 RPM then grunt down to 1,100 RPM for no good reason.

The Subarus I test drove last year all changed RPM at steady throttle input.

I haven't driven a Honda CVT, so my comment was only about MT's comment, not first hand experience.

I'd guess the Nissan nuisances I noticed were poor handling of TCC engagement.

But I still have to laugh at CVT programming that fakes the shifting pattern of a conventional 6 speed, for example.

And on the subject of a CR-V, when I test drove a 2013 over a year ago, I found it very disppointing. So I have no praise for the CR-V unless I test drive a new one and find it much better.
 
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