Originally Posted By: 05LGTLtd
Muffler bearing???
Nope, that's a flux capacitor.
Muffler bearing???
Nope, that's a flux capacitor.
GaleHawkins said:The oldest info that I can find on MoS2 in motor oil indicates the first successful usage (did not settle out on shut down) was POST WWII. Any use in WWII would at best been experimental at best.
I have to say from all the reading and the cost I think I am more sold on using the MoS2 additive than the Ceratec nano technology.
You have a point there.
When I use mos2 there is always a measurable benefit,in fuel economy and so on.
But cera-tec thus far hasn't done anything that I have noticed to anything as far as the engine is concerned.
Now I'm not saying cera-tec isn't a good product. I'm sure it's having a positive effect as far as wear and so on it's just that I haven't done a tear down since I've started using it.
Mos2 always delivers a noticeable fuel consumption reduction,which leads me to believe that mos2 might be a better product as far as friction reduction is concerned,it's just that it doesn't last like cera-tec is supposed to.
I've got a few cans left in stock and likely won't buy anymore.
But I'm sticking with my mos2.
I'd be curious to see the TBN retention/boosting properties (if any) of this in a VOA sample with it installed, vs. a 10K+ mile OCI UOA sample, as far as TBN/TAN numbers go.
I tend to think it does more in this area (due to it's high boron content) than in the anti-wear/anti-friction dept., like where most think MOS2 shines (or am I looking at this product {Ceratec} ALL wrong??).
Dailydriver I know from reading about using Ceratec/MoS2/etc it is hard for me to keep my thoughts straight. It has been less than a year since I even learned about nano technology use in motor oil.
Archoil has been selling in to the large engine equipment industry like 1800 HP dump trucks, trains, ships, ect but are now getting into the consumer market. They seem to have a new generation of AR 9300 which sounds to be ahead of Ceratec in a technical sense based on their marketing materials.
Since we have 20+ engines around the place I am looking at buying a gallon of Archoil AR9300 ($200) that will treat like 140 quarts of gas/diesel engine oil and permits tripling the OCI. The how they 3X it is easy to understand if their claims of .003 coefficient of friction is for read for one year.
$6 per year would be the cost to keep the TownCar treated (one use is good for 1 year in engines and 6 years in gear boxes). $120 per year in oil changes if I went to 10K OCI vs the 5K average we now do. Read the 21 slides in the link and see if you think based on their promo materials if AR9300 does not sound more advanced than the current version of Ceratec?
AR9300 from Archoil slide show.
In the end I order Archoil AR9100 and AR6200. I like the lower cost (went with the gallon of AR9100 and quart of AR6200) and still have the nano technology more the age of the Ceratex generation.
While I highly question the value of additives especially when using a top rated oil like Rotella T6 never the less additives can be fun for a gear head.