Just received notice today. "Certain model year 2014 Touring motorcycles.(all touring models) Hydraulic clutch system may develop a tear in the primary seal on the master cyl piston. Could cause bike to "creep" forward from a stop possibly causing a crash.
2014 HD Recall #0159
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H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
The line was shipped out two years ago. They don't support American business. It's all about outward image, and maintaining gross profits for the shareholders...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
The line was shipped out two years ago. They don't support American business. It's all about outward image, and maintaining gross profits for the shareholders...
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This is not a new concept. Just about every mfgr that makes some form of motorized vehicle, is always looking for cheaper parts. Seems nowadays recalls are a normal way of doing business.20 or 30 years ago it was unusual to have a recall, now it's an every day thing. GM just had a big ignition switch recall that covered multiple year models. Profit over product safety is what drives just about all the vehicle makers today.,,
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
The line was shipped out two years ago. They don't support American business. It's all about outward image, and maintaining gross profits for the shareholders...
Believe me, they are not the only ones doing that, its even in the OEM aviation business. This will go too far and corporate America will wonder what happened.
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
The line was shipped out two years ago. They don't support American business. It's all about outward image, and maintaining gross profits for the shareholders...
Believe me, they are not the only ones doing that, its even in the OEM aviation business. This will go too far and corporate America will wonder what happened.
Maybe Harley quality control is feeling nostalgic for the easy going days of the AMF era.
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
And yet the price of their bikes keeps going up...go figure...
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
And yet the price of their bikes keeps going up...go figure...
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
And yet the price of their bikes keeps going up...go figure...
Which bikes have gone down in price?
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
And yet the price of their bikes keeps going up...go figure...
Which bikes have gone down in price?
Originally Posted By: dr2152
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
And yet the price of their bikes keeps going up...go figure...
Which bikes have gone down in price?
I doubt any of them have, I was simply making a point that while manufacturers are always looking for cost cutting measures, they never pass any savings along to the consumer...it always goes in the CEO's pocket...
Originally Posted By: grampi
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
And yet the price of their bikes keeps going up...go figure...
Which bikes have gone down in price?
I doubt any of them have, I was simply making a point that while manufacturers are always looking for cost cutting measures, they never pass any savings along to the consumer...it always goes in the CEO's pocket...
Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
The line was shipped out two years ago. They don't support American business. It's all about outward image, and maintaining gross profits for the shareholders...
I am very frustrated with this kind of behavior too. I lost my job with a parts supplier (Valeo) due to free trade with Mexico, and I feel that I was lucky because I could pretty much find a job anywhere due to my trade skill. GM, H-D, etc. tell the supplier what they will pay, and that's it. If they can't make it for that price, then too bad. It's a very sad state to be in. In the long run, who is going to buy their products when no one is making any money?
H.Davidson is cutting cost left and right. We used to build a OEM product for them. They kept wanting a lesser price...
Eventually, we had to drop the contract. We were literally building that assembly "at cost". We had a GREAT relationship with Harley, but still they wanted a lesser price, meanwhile our cost was going up. SCREW THEM!
The line was shipped out two years ago. They don't support American business. It's all about outward image, and maintaining gross profits for the shareholders...
I am very frustrated with this kind of behavior too. I lost my job with a parts supplier (Valeo) due to free trade with Mexico, and I feel that I was lucky because I could pretty much find a job anywhere due to my trade skill. GM, H-D, etc. tell the supplier what they will pay, and that's it. If they can't make it for that price, then too bad. It's a very sad state to be in. In the long run, who is going to buy their products when no one is making any money?
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Originally Posted By: Silverado12
I lost my job with a parts supplier (Valeo) due to free trade with Mexico, and I feel that I was lucky because I could pretty much find a job anywhere due to my trade skill.
what?
no way!
you mean big ears Ross Perot was right?
dang!
I lost my job with a parts supplier (Valeo) due to free trade with Mexico, and I feel that I was lucky because I could pretty much find a job anywhere due to my trade skill.
what?
no way!
you mean big ears Ross Perot was right?
dang!
It would be interesting to know the profit margin between the high end bikes (Harley, Indian, BMW, Ducati)to see if it's justified to save a dollar here and there on cheaper made parts that may not have the best quality.
Harleys are very good well made bikes, IMO they shouldn't cut out an American supplier to save a few bucks buying foreign made.
BTW I have no clue if Harley uses much foreign made, so.....?
Harleys are very good well made bikes, IMO they shouldn't cut out an American supplier to save a few bucks buying foreign made.
BTW I have no clue if Harley uses much foreign made, so.....?
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The world is broken. Fallen. Imperfect. Once I came to embrace that, stuff like this became easier to endure.
No machine is perfect.
On my Ducati, the fuel gauge is [censored] but I just figure range off the trip odometer vs. what I've come to know about the fuel economy it gets.
No machine is perfect.
On my Ducati, the fuel gauge is [censored] but I just figure range off the trip odometer vs. what I've come to know about the fuel economy it gets.
I am not Harley bashing here, but I have noticed my friends and family with the newer ones (last 3 or 4 model years) have had a lot of issues with the primaries and transmissions as far as bearings failing at low mileage. I think Harley has maybe crossed a line on some components from using inexpensive parts to cheap parts.
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Until he has to get it serviced. Guys complain Harley's cost alot. 2 hrs labor to replace an air filter on a wing.,,,
They were touring models and a trike. All of them had under 20k when they had to get fixed. One of them after getting it fixed immediately traded it in on a new Triumph Thunderbird.
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